Re:Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris
by leetrout on Monday April 15, 2019 @04:34PM
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The thermal load of the hot wood would burn it even if it extinguished the visible flames unless you could cut off all oxygen flow.
Re:Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris
by EForEndeavour on Monday April 15, 2019 @05:58PM
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Is "thermal load" in this sentence an elaborate term for "heat", or is there more nuance that I'm missing?
Re:Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris
by Maxion on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @01:59AM
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You can have a tiny amount of material be very hot, but you could cool it with a small amount of water. Its thermal load is low.
If you have a large amount of material be moderately hot, you'd need a lot of water to cool it. The thermal load is high.
Re:Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris
by EForEndeavour on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @08:43AM
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In these sentences, you're using "hot" and "cool" to refer to temperature, and using "thermal load" to describe what physicists and engineers unambiguously call "heat," as in the amount of thermal energy held within a specific object of a certain mass, heat capacity, and temperature. In my admittedly limited experience with thermodynamics (currently in grad school for physics), "thermal load" seems to describe the exact same thing as heat, except it's less common. In fact, it initially confused me because of the concept of "thermal mass," which refers to the total heat capacity of a given object = mass * (heat capacity per unit mass).
> As a rule of thumb, the water flow necessary to extinguish a burning structure is the volume of the structure (in feet) divided by 100. The resulting number is (in rough numbers) the amount of water you need, in gallons per minute. For a fire this size, you're looking at tens of thousands of gallons of water per minute. It's just not possible.
I wonder if the fire could be covered with a huge tarpaulin or alike to try to suppress it.