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Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by smacktoward on Monday April 15, 2019 @12:19PM (#19666468)
There were a lot of people telling others to use AdBlock Plus for a long time, and once a bit of advice like that gets lodged in the public consciousness, it's next to impossible to extract it. I still run into Windows users who still think they need to install WinZip to open ZIP files, for instance, even though Windows has come with ZIP handling built in to its file explorer ever since Windows XP.

This is why brands have immense value.

Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by behringer on Monday April 15, 2019 @01:19PM (#19666957)
Also antivirus is the same way. Windows AV is perfectly acceptable for many normal use cases, but people still think they need free AV alternatives like AVG.
Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by wingworks on Monday April 15, 2019 @09:28PM (#19670373)
Or horrible (in my opinion) paid solutions like McAfee...
Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by magduf on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @10:54AM (#19674142)
>Or horrible (in my opinion) paid solutions like McAfee...

It's not just your opinion. Mr. John McAfee himself, the guy who started the company and whose name it still bears, has publicly stated that McAfee software is "the worst software on the planet"!

If that isn't enough for people to avoid a brand name, then I don't know what is. But apparently, countless businesses are so clueless they keep using McAfee software even though its own founder says it's trash.

Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by GrinningFool on Monday April 15, 2019 @01:44PM (#19667157)
> Windows has come with ZIP handling built in to its file explorer ever since Windows XP.

Although it's been molasses-slow in comparison to 3rd party tools since that time as well.

Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by smacktoward on Monday April 15, 2019 @02:03PM (#19667346)
True, but it's Good Enough for most people, who only deal with ZIP files infrequently and generally only ever encounter relatively small ones.

When I talk to these folks and probe why they think they need WinZip, they never say "oh, I was trying to uncompress a 7GB file the other day in Explorer and it took forever." They say "I'm on Windows, and this is a Zip, therefore I need WinZip." They're usually genuinely surprised to find out that this is something Windows can do all by itself.

Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by angott on Monday April 15, 2019 @02:52PM (#19667826)
Does anybody know why this happens? I don't think MSFT would really have issues finding some software engineers to fix this.
Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by jraph on Monday April 15, 2019 @02:59PM (#19667895)
I guess this is the reason: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20180515-00/?p=98...

> Since its release in Windows XP, Zip folders has not been actively developed. The reason is the usual: Because adding features requires engineering resources, and engineering resources are limited. Furthermore, since the compression and decompression code weren’t written by anybody from Microsoft, there is no expertise in the code base, which means that debugging and making changes is a very difficult undertaking.

Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by code_duck on Monday April 15, 2019 @07:58PM (#19669930)
“Because adding features requires engineering resources, and engineering resources are limited.“

seems to translate to ‘because we really don’t care’. It’s not as if Microsoft is strapped for cash.

Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by metildaa on Monday April 15, 2019 @11:11PM (#19670830)
At least they haven't purged it, if this were Google then there would be no ZIP support in newer OS versions.

They even killed ChromeOS ans Chorme updates for a bunch of 3 to 4 year old Chromebooks recently, despite the hardware being fine to run newer ChromeOS.

Re:Adblock Plus filter lists may execute arbitrary code in w... by magduf on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @10:58AM (#19674181)
Why should they? Are they going to make more money if they fix it? Of course not; people aren't basing their usage of Windows on the performance of the built-in unzipper. Advanced users just install a 3rd-party tool, the clueless masses just use the built-in thing and wait and think it's normal. Companies like Microsoft don't care about building the best product they can; they only care about maximizing profits, so the solution that's "good enough" is what they go with. What they have works, poorly, and costs them nothing to maintain, so that's what they stick with.