Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down TorrentFreak Tweet

Re:Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down... by DannyBee on Monday April 15, 2019 @09:57AM (#19665312)

They actually are not so required. This is often thought to be true but is very wrong.

The only thing that happens if they say no is that they may be held liable later if the content is found to be infringing. So in a case like this, which is nonsense, they could just say "no" without any fear because nobody is going to find it infringing in court.

(This will likely surprise people or generate snarky responses, but oh well) Back when we had code.google.com, the DMCA team at Google used to spend a tremendous amount of energy and time evaluating requests to understand whether they were reasonable/made sense, because code.google.com got a lot of baseless requests to remove content.

Google said no to a large number of baseless removals.

Twitter could do the same here.

(in practice i assume the volume becomes completely overwhelming at some point)

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Re:Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down... by eeeeeeeeeeeee on Monday April 15, 2019 @10:23AM (#19665500)

It’s semantics really. Yes, Twitter can stick their neck out and ignore it, but it almost never happens. The end result is that Twitter understandably doesn’t want to have their legal team review every single DMCA request for validity.

The law is clearly broken but service providers like Twitter are caught in the middle.

As someone that had to deal with these reports, and we were tiny, the volume is insane. I cannot imagine the number of complaints Twitter receives.

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Re:Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down... by DannyBee on Monday April 15, 2019 @11:46AM (#19666143)

"The end result is that Twitter understandably doesn’t want to have their legal team review every single DMCA request for validity."

I mean, humans are still involved in the process almost everywhere anyway, so it's not like they save a tremendous amount of overhead to flag weird ones.

"The law is clearly broken but service providers like Twitter are caught in the middle."

Sure, that i'm not gonna argue with

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Re:Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down... by SpicyLemonZest on Monday April 15, 2019 @10:00AM (#19665330)

Sure, but the article doesn't seem to argue that this complaint was so obviously frivolous that Twitter should have ignored it. (It doesn't really complain about Twitter at all, only Starz.)

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Re:Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down... by Scoundreller on Monday April 15, 2019 @10:06AM (#19665366)

Why would twitter ignore something that benefits its advertisers?

Now they have a convenient excuse for what they did.

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Re:Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down... by raxxorrax on Monday April 15, 2019 @10:40AM (#19665643)

There is simply no business case here for disputing claims. Even if (and that is a big if when talking copyright law) the claim is invalid, why should the platform risk it?

As you said yourself, Google had a DCMA team...

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Re:Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down... by DannyBee on Monday April 15, 2019 @11:45AM (#19666138)

"As you said yourself, Google had a DCMA team..."

They still do, and they still push back, fwiw :)

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Re:Starz Doesn’t Like News About Leaked TV-Shows, Takes Down... by raxxorrax on Tuesday April 16, 2019 @11:32AM (#19674510)

Oh sorry, didn't mean to imply they got rid of it, english is not my native tongue. Sure, Google does, but would a smaller company be able to have a dedicated team for this? Success would pay in goodwill and sadly the currency exchange for that is pretty bad right now.

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