Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by sp332 on Friday December 03, 2010 @09:58AM
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Hang on, GP is addressing a different issue, not the groping. The article complains that "sexualized environments" are bad, but Noirin sought out - and actively participated in - a sexualized environment and had no problem with it (the groping was a separate thing). Obviously there is a distinction to be made, but it's not clear what the distinction is...
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Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by robg on Friday December 03, 2010 @10:06AM
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A party isn't a "sexualized environment". An orgy is. Let's be perfectly clear that there's a huge difference between the two. People go to parties for all sorts of reasons.
Look guys, women flirt to signal interest. You can never assume anything more than that is intended. It's not fair to them and you'll look foolish (or worse) if you go too fast.
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by yummyfajitas on Friday December 03, 2010 @10:18AM
(#1966101)
In that case, the author of the article is also wrong. There are no public sex acts, so open source conferences are similarly not sexualized environments.
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by achompas on Friday December 03, 2010 @10:38AM
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A party isn't a sexualized environment unless there's some overtly-sexual influence. Similarly, open-source conferences are completely tame until the organizers hire strippers. And strippers are as "sexualized" as it gets (well, except for orgies or prostitutes).
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by jules on Friday December 03, 2010 @05:12PM
(#1967639)
Strippers are of course ridiculous to have at a conference. I can't even begin to imagine how anyone could think that it's a good idea.
However, read the proposed policy: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/index.php?title=Conference_ant...
> We do not tolerate harassment of conference participants in any form. Sexual language and imagery is not appropriate for any conference venue, including talks. Conference participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled from the conference [without a refund] at the discretion of the conference organizers.
Sexual language is forbidden. I think we can agree that this too, is ridiculous.
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by enneff on Friday December 03, 2010 @06:37PM
(#1967861)
I agree it sounds ridiculous, but now I am having a hard time thinking of an appropriate example of sexual language at a tech conference. These rules set clearly defined boundaries that even the most tactless, socially inept people can understand and abide by.
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by jules on Friday December 03, 2010 @07:12PM
(#1967942)
A joke perhaps? It is ridiculous also because the punishment is far too severe.
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by enneff on Saturday December 04, 2010 @10:10PM
(#1970911)
A sexual joke would be appropriate? Not IMO.
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by c00ki3s on Saturday December 04, 2010 @10:35AM
(#1969372)
"Fuck I dropped my laptop" ?
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by enneff on Saturday December 04, 2010 @10:09PM
(#1970909)
"Fuck" as an exclamation is not sexual language. You could argue otherwise, but you'd just be being literal-minded.
Re:The dark side of open source conferences [about women bei...
by achompas on Friday December 03, 2010 @10:02AM
(#1966054)
Upvote for catching this, and I'm editing my post to be clearer, but: there's a world of difference between harmless flirting and attending a conference where the company hires strippers.