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Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by kzcqt on Saturday April 13, 2019 @03:08PM (#19655095)
The Pence remark was completely unnecessary and infuriating. I thought this was some educative chain of tweets and it ended in "orang man bad". Very anticlimactic.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by dagenix on Saturday April 13, 2019 @03:19PM (#19655167)
It's the _entire_ point of the piece. And it's not really all that much of a political statement. The message is pretty clear: don't send people to die in space for stupid-ass political reasons.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by tomatotomato37 on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:03PM (#19655417)
As a counterpoint, sending people to space for stupid-ass political reasons resulted in one of humanity's greatest technological achievements that allowed us to put the plaque up there in the first place.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by Piskvorrr on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:29PM (#19655537)
Note the subtle difference between "sending people to space" and "sending people to die in space". (As explained in the thread, Soyuz-1 was hurried to launch for political reasons despite being unspaceworthy)
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by nwienert on Saturday April 13, 2019 @06:37PM (#19656192)
That doesn't counter GP's point, it reinforces it. The successful moon missions were all launched for political reasons, too.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by x0054 on Saturday April 13, 2019 @07:52PM (#19656558)
He is pointing out that there is a difference between sending people to space for political reasons and sending people to space for political reasons in known to be unsafe aircraft knowing that the possibility of death is significantly above average. One is risking someone’s life for achievement and glory. The other is killing someone because your fragile ego can’t take the hit of not being ready on time for some stupid political deadline.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by nwienert on Sunday April 14, 2019 @01:06AM (#19657702)
Yea, the point is why is there a random political shot at Pence? It makes no sense. It’s shoehorning a totally petty and not relevant potshot. Every space mission has been “political”, and of course everyone agrees you shouldn’t do a bad job at it.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by abduhl on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:02PM (#19655402)
Everyone sent into space was for a political reason. Whether or not you think it's a stupid-ass reason is more of a reflection on yourself than the message.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by duxup on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:36PM (#19655559)
In this case the craft was not ready, it seemed to be widely known that the person who took that spot would die. I think that is an important contrast compared to "everyone sent into space"
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by abduhl on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:53PM (#19655646)
Sure, in the case of Komarov. But that's not what we're talking about in this comment thread - we're talking about the inclusion of a random tweet about Mike Pence that could have been left out without changing the message at all.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by duxup on Saturday April 13, 2019 @05:06PM (#19655734)
Kinda seems off to ignore the actual example of the article ... but be concerned about the tweet.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by xeeeeeeeeeeenu on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:01PM (#19655396)
What makes you think that Trump's administration is/will be "sending people to die in space"?
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by duxup on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:19PM (#19655492)
It's a warning to avoid making reckless decisions purely for political gain.

I feel like that childish "orange man bad" quote comes up as a reaction to anything potentially perceived as negative as if nobody could ever make a valid a comment, observation, write a story, whatever.

Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by hitekker on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:47PM (#19655616)
Yep, "orange man bad" is a thought terminating cliche [1]. Intended to position the speakers above his or her opponents, but without a hint of self-awareness necessary for efficacy outside of the echo-chamber. The label itself sounds so puerile that it ironically paints the speakers as mindless as the ones they're trying to paint as mindless.

"This is an insult that stupid people think makes them sound smarter than other stupid people," as I've heard before.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A...

Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by duxup on Saturday April 13, 2019 @11:39PM (#19657468)
Thank you, that's a good description of how it plays out. I hadn't heard that term for it before.
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by 05 on Saturday April 13, 2019 @03:44PM (#19655308)
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it
Re:Vladimir Komarov went on a space suicide mission to save ... by HillRat on Saturday April 13, 2019 @04:06PM (#19655435)
Generally I’ve found that those who forget history tend to condemn others to repeat it for them.