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Re:Julian Assange Got What He Deserved by lovich on Saturday April 13, 2019 @12:27PM (#19653935)
I've got a degree in poli sci. Sovereignty was never defined as your ability to force others to do things. That was a violation of their sovereignty and meant that the polity being forced to do something or who could not enforce their borders no longer had sovereignty. No where other than this conversation have I ever seen someone claim that going to someone else's land and taking doing what I want is sovereignty.

At this point we are just arguing over definitions and not the actual topic that started so I am bowing out before this becomes a flame war

Re:Julian Assange Got What He Deserved by dllthomas on Sunday April 14, 2019 @09:46PM (#19662741)
> No where other than this conversation have I ever seen someone claim that going to someone else's land and taking doing what I want is sovereignty.

I've seen it elsewhere on this site (I think from rayiner?).

It's plausible that it's actually used that way in some contexts (legal, maybe?), but I agree that's not what most people think of. The whole concept of "violation of sovereignty" would seem to rely on there being some limits to what countries can do to each other. If it's simply a matter of "what a country has the power to do" - otherwise sovereignty could not be violated, only demonstrated lacking.