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Re:‘China’s Manhattan’ Borrowed Heavily, but the People Have... by seppin on Thursday April 11, 2019 @06:30PM (#19639930)
> Technological and social impact.

That's what makes SF a financial capital. What are its cultural contributions? Hoodies and overpriced coffee?

> SV owns the west's attention and behavior right now

Tech acts to capture and reflect culture, it doesn't create any. Even if it did, having companies based in SF wouldn't make the city itself a cultural capital. Just economic.

Re:‘China’s Manhattan’ Borrowed Heavily, but the People Have... by heurist on Friday April 12, 2019 @03:04PM (#19647982)
I feel that you are being overly reductive. My midwestern parents spend half their evenings on Facebook with Netflix on in the background now instead of simply watching cable TV. Society is having huge, diffuse discussions around overuse of phones, internet addiction, political problems of connectivity. Most of the popular personal entertainment apps are based in SV (as is Pixar, if you want to discuss influential art). Culture is not paintings and sculptures, it's the way we behave and interact. Consider that prior to Da Vinci's era, painting primarily was seen as a trade and not an art. With technology uprooting our society piece by piece, I see no reason to consider technology anything but a core cultural driver. SV is currently the center of technology-based culture, for better or worse.
Re:‘China’s Manhattan’ Borrowed Heavily, but the People Have... by seppin on Friday April 12, 2019 @09:13PM (#19650442)
> My midwestern parents spend half their evenings on Facebook with Netflix on in the background now instead of simply watching cable TV.

Then your argument is for LA creating culture, which it does, not SF. "Tech" distributes art created in Hollywood.

> Society is having huge, diffuse discussions around overuse of phones, internet addiction, political problems of connectivity.

Again not culture, digital addiction if anything. The cigarettes of our generation.

> Culture is not paintings and sculptures, it's the way we behave and interact.

Communication tools are just that, tools. Speech, performance, art, music, all creations that have nothing to do with the tech that distributes it.

> SV is currently the center of technology-based culture, for better or worse.

SF/SV captures, repackages, and distributes art/speech in order to sell ads over the top of it all. Why you think that qualifies as creating culture itself, I don't know.

You think i'm wrong? Try watching a Youtube or Facebook original series. When SV tries to actually create something, it's terrible.

Re:‘China’s Manhattan’ Borrowed Heavily, but the People Have... by heurist on Saturday April 13, 2019 @01:50PM (#19654557)
I totally disagree with your perspective on this but do not that think we will reach an agreement with further discussion.
Re:‘China’s Manhattan’ Borrowed Heavily, but the People Have... by seppin on Monday April 15, 2019 @11:09AM (#19665876)
Is seems we disagree about what culture actually is, so agreed.
Re:‘China’s Manhattan’ Borrowed Heavily, but the People Have... by notfromhere on Friday April 12, 2019 @09:51AM (#19644761)
It's an ironic claim given how tech has driven out all the creative types out of SF