Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by tonystubblebine on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @12:24PM
(#196171)
There's a quote I like that I think came from Marvin Minsky, "the US needs a Department of Homeland Arithmetic." We're protecting ourselves from all the wrong risks.
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Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by byrneseyeview on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @02:21PM
(#196361)
I don't understand why Marvin Minsky hates America so much that he wants to put the government in charge of assessing such risks. The government is an incredibly complex device for distilling a tiny amount of individual ignorance from each voter into a moonshine of batshittery.
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by SwellJoe on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @02:33PM
(#196379)
I'm not exactly sure what a "moonshine of batshittery" is, but you've got my vote.
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by fnord23 on Thursday May 22, 2008 @04:33AM
(#197002)
I'm guess it's from the phrase 'batshit crazy'.
But yeah, he's got my vote too...
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by rw on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @04:02PM
(#196495)
It's presumptuous to say that voters effect any real change in government policy.
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by eru on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @05:33PM
(#196578)
Perhaps you have more effect by voting (i.e. switching) TV channels. The public opinion seems to be very important for government policy - and popular shows can be and are seen as a barometer for it, I guess.
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by michaelneale on Thursday May 22, 2008 @06:22AM
(#197032)
A book I want to read on that exact subject: http://miami.indymedia.org/news/2008/05/11008.php
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by gojomo on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @04:11PM
(#196502)
We could fund the Department of Homeland Arithmetic with lottery revenues!
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by mynameishere on Thursday May 22, 2008 @01:06AM
(#196914)
People who are quite aware of the mathematics behind gambling still do it. Gambling exploits instincts rather than ignorance.
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by aggieben on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @12:46PM
(#196203)
Uh, wouldn't this actually be called something like "the US Department of Education"?
It's been a rousing success, too - it's allowed our Ministry of Truth to claim things like "comrades! Our production of students that pass the standardized test is up 85% this quarter!".
It's all about families, man. Good families teach people what's really important - not federal departments of anonymoustaxeatingbureaucrat.
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by sabat on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @02:37PM
(#196384)
And when a large proportion of families (broken, dysfunctional, otherwise unable) fail to teach kids what's important: what then?
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by aggieben on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @02:53PM
(#196404)
I don't know many good answers to that question - but in my bones I know that the federal government isn't one of them.
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by graywh on Wednesday May 21, 2008 @02:51PM
(#196400)
People didn't worry about that (i.e. formal education systems) until only recently, but I guess what's "important" has gotten more complex and the rate of "dysfunction" has increased.
Re:Cory Doctorow: Our dangerous statistical ignorance
by helveticaman on Friday June 06, 2008 @09:14PM
(#211330)
What now?