Yup. An article is only on part of any media campaign. I think it also safe to assume this HN discussion is being cataloged, if not actively manipulated, by those who created this article.

I created the article! Trust me when I say I'm not cataloging this discussion or actively manipulating it.

(EDIT: deleted "with my colleagues" because another commenter says it sounds like something other than reporters working with editors to put out an article.)

>> I created the article! Trust me when I say I'm not cataloging this discussion or actively manipulating it.

I don't see any version of "alanwong" on the article. We have a political piece written by a journal/website/news source that is apparently owned by a Chinese company and authored by a woman named "Viola Zhou". Now we have someone calling themselves "alanwong" claiming to have created the article but whose name appears nowhere on said article. This looks like team effort to me, a badly executed one.

(Alanwong claims to be the editor, not author, but I don't see the editor listed on the website)

Few sites list editors of an individual article these days. Here's my author page. https://www.inkstonenews.com/author/alan-wong-0 My role is also listed in my hackernews profile. Try searching my name and Inkstone. You'll find me and my relations with Inkstone. It's all one search away.

>I'm not cataloging this discussion or actively manipulating it...

???

You just did.

I know that likely read like I was trying to be snarky, but I wasn't.

No I don't find you snarky. I'm just confused. Are you saying that by engaging in a discussion about an article I posted in an online forum I'm "cataloging" and "actively manipulating" it? Am I "cataloging" a discussion if I tweet an article and reply to the responses? Am I "actively manipulating" a Reddit discussion if I post a link on the site and... respond to the comments? I've been doing both my whole career.

“You and your colleagues” makes it sound like you have a comment crew.

Thanks. A reply button wasn't available until just now, so I had edited my original comment and added a note.

Well, I only trust a news agency that would also report about the people in captivity there ( a couple of million Muslims).

Or about the digital credit system.

Or about claiming international waters.

Or about the countries that won't be able to pay back the investments of the one-road. Where locals don't get any benefits from.

Or that the worldwide loans to other countries make it clear that china is not a developing country anymore.

What's the chance of that?

( Sorry, but I'm more worried since I know China is actively sponsoring pro-China news agencies close to home ( Londen)). The sooner it fails, the better.

And no, it's not personal against you. It is however personal against me ( manipulating news close to home).

And Xi is pretty smart and hard-working. He is going for the long/slow haul, it's not what he's doing now, it's what he can do tomorrow.

What I see now, is what I thought it would be. He is waiting till Trump is gone, because he will be in charge longer.

Then you want the American propaganda.

We've got plenty of that on CNN and FOX.

No need to go all the way out to China to get your fix. And the Chinese will likely be serving up Chinese propaganda anyway. If you want American propaganda, why not just consume it here in America?

Inkstone is Hong Kong-based and independent. We're only a little more than one year old but have published countless stories about all of the topics you mentioned. I'll give you a few examples, below. Try searching the site with site:inkstonenews.com if you want more.

> Well, I only trust a news agency that would also report about the people in captivity there ( a couple of million Muslims).

The two most recent pieces on Xinjiang:

US lawmakers want this man punished over China’s treatment of Muslims https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/us-lawmakers-urge-sanc...

US condemns Muslim camps that China calls ‘boarding schools’ https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/us-highlights-mass-det...

> Or about the digital credit system. ‘Worse than doing time’: life on the wrong side of China’s social credit system https://www.inkstonenews.com/china/chinas-13-million-discred... Got bad social credit? Your son isn’t going to college https://www.inkstonenews.com/society/chinas-social-credit-sy...

Thanks for the heads-up/correction

And?

They can’t be trusted? Chinese news is a farce.

OP and an editor of Inkstone here. Surely I don't think what we do is farcical. Happy to answer any questions you have of our work.

How much leeway do you have to discuss and publicize incidents like the Tienamen Square massacre and other atrocities that the Chinese government has generally made an effort to scrub from the internet?

We're a Hong Kong-based media organization, meaning no government, Chinese or not, dictates to us what we can or cannot report on. Our website is blocked in China. We do not censor our content and have reported on Tiananmen. For example: did you know that China just sentenced several men who put the image of the Tank Man on baijiu (a kind of hard liquor) bottles as a form of protest? https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/activists-who-put-tank...

Don't have to be farcical to have an agenda.

In fairness, so is most other "news". But yeah, I certainly wouldn't trust Chinese news any more than FOX or whatever.

Pretty much all of it's propaganda these days.