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Re:Motel 6 to Pay $12M after Improperly Giving Guest Lists t... by scarejunba on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:11PM (#19585983)
Honestly it feels like it should be illegal. If a cop or a cop-simulacrum walks up to me and says "You're going to jail unless you give me this" I'm probably going to give them that. I don't want to go to jail and I know they'll cook something up about resisting arrest if I don't play along.
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Re:Motel 6 to Pay $12M after Improperly Giving Guest Lists t... by Miner49er on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:14PM (#19586002)
If the state of Washington made it illegal it couldn't effect ICE though could it, since they're a part of the federal government?
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Re:Motel 6 to Pay $12M after Improperly Giving Guest Lists t... by scarejunba on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:41PM (#19586250)
Is it possible for states to make laws saying that cop-likes can't lie about things? And then for the state to sue the federal government if they violated that?

Because the truth is that requiring a warrant won't do the trick. If the cop-like says he doesn't need a warrant I'm going to listen to him. I should always comply in the moment or "we'll do things the hard way". Then afterwards maybe I can sue.

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Re:Motel 6 to Pay $12M after Improperly Giving Guest Lists t... by tdhoot on Friday April 05, 2019 @07:22PM (#19587982)
No, it couldn't affect ICE since the federal government has sovereign immunity and all federal officials enjoy qualified immunity in the course of conducting federal business.
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Re:Motel 6 to Pay $12M after Improperly Giving Guest Lists t... by vkou on Friday April 05, 2019 @04:39PM (#19586789)
If a cop walks up to you, and says: "You're going to jail, unless you kill Bob," that's one thing.

If a cop walks up to you, and says: "Could you do me a favor, and kill Bob for me?" - that's an entirely different thing.

Motel 6 was not coerced into breaking the law. It voluntarily broke the law.

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