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Re:Groups of Homeless People by ende on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:50AM (#19580056)
I think you’re missing the point. The people that OP is referring to refuse to use all the public facilities offered, they don’t want to sleep indoors, they don’t want to use trash cans, they don’t want to piss in mobile bathrooms or take showers, they don’t want to be corralled into designated hang out spots.

They want to go wherever they want to, camp out wherever they want to, they want to collect whatever garbage they want to and they don’t want to clean up after themselves, they want to do as much drugs and alcohol abuse in public as they want to, they want to piss wherever they may happen to be at the moment because they don’t want to be burdened with the responsibility of thinking out their actions.

This doesn’t describe every one exactly but it generally describes most that fall into this category.

Ultimately these are people who refuse to play by the rules of society. No amount of public support is going to change them because they simply do not want to change. They are perfectly happy where they are right now, doing whatever it is they want to do. Nobody can solve their ‘problem’ because as far as they are concerned there is no problem.

So understanding that fact, society needs to decide just how much of that behavior it is willing to tolerate.

Re:Groups of Homeless People by clort on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:59AM (#19580628)
people who are extreme along these lines can fall into the ruiners category (eg taking drugs in a childrens play area and pissing on the slide).

people who are not so extreme perhaps fall into the first category. I mean, I know people who live free because they want to. They don't cause any issues to the public around them except that they don't pay local taxes and are therefore a burden on the state in some minimal way (simplistically, they do use the roads and other services provided by the government). If housing were cheap enough they might take advantage of that.

Re:Groups of Homeless People by pjc50 on Friday April 05, 2019 @04:40AM (#19580803)
So, libertarians, but without the money?

(How do these people get into this state? Is this just a concentration phenomenon, where people who think that all move to the same place?)

Re:Groups of Homeless People by wasdfff on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:26PM (#19584129)
Many were bussed in by other cities to California
Re:Groups of Homeless People by ende on Saturday April 06, 2019 @01:33AM (#19589429)
As a “recovering libertarian”, this is accusation is so apt. The ideology fits the behavior being described very closely.

Which is why it is so perplexing that Bay Area progressives strive so hard to protext libertarians.

Re:Groups of Homeless People by educationdata on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:36AM (#19580240)
Interesting. How do those people think of jail time? Will arresting scare them away or change their behavior?
Re:Groups of Homeless People by ende on Saturday April 06, 2019 @01:34AM (#19589432)
Probably not. They just go to wherever they are least bothered. Hence the Bay Area and its laxness.
Re:Groups of Homeless People by shard972 on Friday April 05, 2019 @04:45AM (#19580821)
Oh no your treating mental illness with jail time, thats bad.