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Re:Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Ha... by keymone on Thursday April 04, 2019 @08:03AM (#19571134)
there's a difference between "non-economically viable" and "not useful". i have no problems with people losing interest in doing stuff that current market values because current market values turning people into zombies that occasionally are happy to go murder each other.

art, volunteering, social programs and plenty other activities are way more useful for civilization as a whole than almost any random job on the market. as soon as businesses start losing workers as they realize they don't need to do shitty unimportant stuff just to put bread on a table - market will finally put the right price on lots of these jobs and start paying for it adequately.

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Re:Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Ha... by mises on Thursday April 04, 2019 @08:11AM (#19571198)
> they don't need to do unimportant stuff just to put bread on a table

I think at first they will, but I think over time they will realize they don't have to do anything at all. People work because they want something, or at least I always have.

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Re:Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Ha... by ams6110 on Thursday April 04, 2019 @08:32AM (#19571386)
Yes that is how human nature evolved. Competition for scarce resources so you and your offspring can survive. This extends to supporting society to the extent it helps your personal survival.
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Re:Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Ha... by keymone on Thursday April 04, 2019 @08:32AM (#19571383)
> People work because they want something

nope. there is a deep psychological need to feel productive and useful to society in all but very few sociopathic humans.

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Re:Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Ha... by anonlapwarmer on Thursday April 04, 2019 @06:23PM (#19577698)
When people retire, they get doubly depressed from age and if they don't have structure and activities to keep them occupied. It's best to never "retire," not because of cognitive "use it or lose it" (which was disproven[1]) but because of the harms of slipping into depression.

For example, my step-father was a copy editor for a large government body who was initially happy/go-lucky on retirement initially but is now extremely self-isolated and depressed.

EDIT: 1. https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4925

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