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Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by rjmunro on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:14PM (#19555683)
Simple: You'd have to install a plugin or a separate special app to watch video, like the bad old days of RealPlayer.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by theprotocol on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:24PM (#19555822)
This is the most plausible outcome. Netflix wouldn't just leave that money on the table and the most obvious thing to do would be to provide the support they want from browsers themselves.

Users follow use cases and would not be averse to spending 30 seconds installing something in order to watch their favorite content.

There's also sort of a game theory situation with the removal of DRM, as it would be a competitive advantage being the only one that supports it.

Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by bad_user on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:33PM (#19555931)
All Netflix movies are on PirateBay already, in spite of their DRM. I’ve seen movies pop up on PirateBay the day they are released. They wouldn’t leave any money on the table.

People paying for Netflix are paying for convenience. That wouldn’t change in absence of DRM.

Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by theprotocol on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:45PM (#19556095)
I think you're greatly underestimating how much more cumbersome torrenting is even compared to a plugin, especially for "normal" users who are not necessarily tech-savvy.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by bad_user on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @01:08PM (#19556355)
This argument is repeated ad nauseam but it’s false, all it takes is a torrenting app installed, that’s the only threshold.

But back to the point, if Netflix wouldn’t use DRM, it would change absolutely nothing since copyright infringement is still illegal and those DRM protections are completely useless.

Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by fixermark on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @01:31PM (#19556575)
Can my torrenting app stream my video, or do I have to wait for a full assembly of the pieces from torrent hosts and enough downloaded to watch it?

If the latter, torrenting is plenty cumbersome enough that if the studios are pushing movie-viewing to "Pay us money or you have to torrent it," they're winning.

Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by Reelin on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @07:03PM (#19559409)
> Can my torrenting app stream my video

Yes, and this functionality has been built into many of the largest torrenting programs out-of-the-box for quite some time now. In the case of µTorrent, it was added in version 3.0 all the way back in 2010.

Obviously, how quickly the stream will buffer depends entirely on the state of the swarm. Popular items will work almost immediately, while particularly unpopular items won't be streamable at all.

Anecdotally, I have personally witnessed my (very nontechnical) friends streaming 4+ GB 1080p ...popular cat videos... that weren't available from Netflix. They did not struggle with the process in the slightest.

Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by radisb on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:38PM (#19557819)
Pop-Corn Time would like to have a word with you
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by fixermark on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:46PM (#19557878)
I don't think it would, unless it begins playing within thirty seconds of the user choosing a video and provides an uninterrupted streaming experience?

Last I checked, the BitTorrent protocol didn't provide packet sorting that would allow for this behavior (by forcing the beginning of the movie's bytestream to be the first data downloaded), so my mistake if the protocol has improved and I was unaware it provided this service.

Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by Dylan16807 on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:59PM (#19558001)
The downloading client is in charge of which parts of the file it gets first. It can easily go in order.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by fixermark on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @04:02PM (#19558023)
How easily, and how much setup is necessary? Remember, we're talking about competing with a service that doesn't even make the end-user consider whether that is a problem that needs to be solved (just plug in a credit card and off you go).
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by Dylan16807 on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @04:05PM (#19558039)
A coder spent an hour changing the code, once, and now it requires zero effort for users. They never know the difference. Open popcorn time and wait for it to quickly buffer.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by dingaling on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @07:08PM (#19559436)
> You'd have to install a plugin or a separate special app to watch video

How is that different from the current state of EME plugins? Other than that proprietary browsers ship with the most popular plugins installed.

Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by Operyl on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @09:08PM (#19559997)
Edge and Safari have the appropriate tools to deal with DRM, so significantly different. The built in browsers already just work.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by jhasse on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:30PM (#19555890)
They could block that, too. (It won't work on Android and iOS anyway)
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me by theprotocol on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:42PM (#19556058)
This would be an authoritarian action, compared to just opting out of supporting something. There's a huge difference and I think these organizations' supposed interest in ethics precludes that sort of move.

DRM is not illegitimate. It just sucks and operates in a way that is immune to free market competition - the reasons for that immunity are the true thing to fix. Users should have alternatives as there is a clear market there. If DRM is so bad, then that's what should kill it.