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Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by noer on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @10:32AM (#19554458)
I had similar thoughts about the touchbar, but then i discovered you can change the touchbar to always show the old function bar buttons (brightness, volume, etc) or to show F keys instead of allowing whatever program you're using to control the touchbar.
Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by Karzyn on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @10:58AM (#19554784)
I did that when I was using a MacBook at my old job and it helped but the problem was that it was too easy to accidentally push the buttons on the touchbar by mistake.
Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by asark on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @11:25AM (#19555117)
I've had to all but disable mine on any newer MacBook I use, too. It's become part of my first-day setup routine. Otherwise getting a finger near one of the "buttons" on the touchbar triggers it. So, away go any "buttons" near where my fingers might ever go, and away goes the per-app settings which override it, leaving me with [esc] [scrn light down] [scrn light up] on the left side, biiiiig gap, then three volume control buttons way on the right.

My personal machine's still a 2014. Keyboard's much better (almost as good as the design that came before it), I don't miss the larger touchpad at all when I'm on mine with its smaller one, and I do not want to pay extra money for a touchbar that I basically have to disable first thing to have a usable machine. Oh and I have to disable force-touch because otherwise I can't reliably click-n-drag files. So all the new fancy stuff I turn off because I can't use the machine with them on.

Getting rid of the long cable for the charging brick while raising prices is a slap in the face, too. Oh and all my stuff's still USB-A. Friggin' Apple. I hate that they can mess up so badly and still be far enough ahead of the competition that it's hard to switch.

Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by overdrivetg on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:08PM (#19557544)
Yeah, annoyingly I used to lightly rest my fingers on the brightness/escape function keys, so now every once in a while I won't pay attention and the screen is now either full blast or off >:-[
Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by bluedino on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @11:03AM (#19554846)
I'll take real buttons and the $100 the Touchbar costs back.
Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by guy_c on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @10:28PM (#19560299)
Thanks, I didn't know that. I've changed to the standard "Expanded Control Strip" and it is much better. I found the constantly updating touchbar visually distracting.
Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by throw1234567890 on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @11:02AM (#19554841)
you can't rest your fingers on the "keys" before pressing them

you can't feel what "key" you will be pressing

you get no feedback when you press a "key"

for the last one, there is an app which makes the touchpad vibrate... which really isn't the same feeling though

so yeah... that touchbar is a useless POS...