Ancient monument sheds light on battle of Actium

Re:Ancient monument sheds light on battle of Actium by neuronic on Monday April 01, 2019 @09:15AM (#19542897)

I disagree with the notion that Germany's Weimar Republic only went because of the Reichstag Fire (you used it as an example of a more sudden demise). The Republic was actively sabotaged and dismantled beginning the very day it was formed. It was doomed the day the treaty of Versailles put all the blame of WWI on Germany. And it was people like Stresemann who prevented an earlier "official" demise and it took Hindenburg to position Hitler in a state where he just had to deliver the final blow.

The span here is over a decade - short still, but far from sudden.

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Re:Ancient monument sheds light on battle of Actium by village-idiot on Monday April 01, 2019 @11:11AM (#19544106)

Within a lifespan though. It took a lot longer for the Romans to go from a functioning republic to being a true empire with an autocratic and often hereditary ruler. The span from the Gracchi brothers to Augustus was about 180 years, longer still until all pretensions of republican rule were tossed aside.

Of course, the Weimar Republic was much weaker than the Roman one, or even the American one at that point in time, meaning it was easier to kill.

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Re:Ancient monument sheds light on battle of Actium by AnimalMuppet on Monday April 01, 2019 @03:56PM (#19547512)

I don't think that's right. The Gracchi started at 133 BC. Augustus died in 14 AD. And he became emperor... well, that's a bit fuzzy, but he was the man after Actium, which was 31 BC. That's only 102 years (or 147 if you date it from Augustus' death).

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Re:Ancient monument sheds light on battle of Actium by village-idiot on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @01:53AM (#19551409)

Oops, I measured from Tiberius’ birth in 169BCE, not from the start of his political career.

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