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Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by mykowebhn on Monday April 01, 2019 @12:38AM (#19540547)
> The evolution of the french language is not dictated by the Académie, but rather by its use by the french people

> the Académie is actively trying to find french equivalent for [convenient English words] that are coherent with the etymology of the french language

Don't these two sentences you wrote contradict each other? From what I gather, you ARE saying that the French language IS dictated by the Académie, even though you initially wrote the contrary. I'm a little confused.

Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by bisRepetita on Monday April 01, 2019 @03:10AM (#19541178)
???? There is a huge gap between trying to influence the French language, and dictating it (forcing to use it). The Francophones at the end of the day decide what they use, they live as a free society.

I welcome people trying to creatively influence a language, whether they are normal people, cool teenagers, rappers and rock stars, Quebecois guardians of the French language, or people at the Academie Francaise.

Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by makapuf on Monday April 01, 2019 @07:34AM (#19542293)
For all words the equivalent of computer - "ordinateur" was invented by académie française from a sollicitation of IBM and it stuck. Everyone uses this word now.
Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by p0nce on Monday April 01, 2019 @08:29AM (#19542588)
Yes, this is national pride about this one word that stuck, but here is what "ordiner" is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_orders

Meanwhile the rest of the world use a word that refers to computation, and french has even a "computationnel" word because "ordinateur" doesn't make much sense. A computer is not something that gives holy orders.

Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by 0815test on Monday April 01, 2019 @08:39AM (#19542651)
> A computer is not something that gives holy orders.

Unless it's running HolyC and TempleOS, of course! Rust and RedoxOS may be the best human-made solutions, but a computer with TempleOS is the only true "ordinateur", because it directly communes with G-d.

Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by gerard2 on Monday April 01, 2019 @01:05AM (#19540655)
Well maybe. Maybe someone with a stronger literary background than me could make the argument that providing traductions of english words is just a plus to ensure the completion of the french language and not really an important part of the language evolution. But I just wanted to explain that french people do not feel like the way they speak and write is dictated by the academie.And surely their appreciation of the french language has very little to do with the yellow vests protests.
Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by jacquesm on Monday April 01, 2019 @04:36AM (#19541531)
> traductions

Lucky you, we do not have an academie anglaise...

Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by gerard2 on Monday April 01, 2019 @07:11AM (#19542167)
Ahah sorry. Thank you, I wouldn't want an englishman with a sword coming at me in my sleep.
Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by p0nce on Monday April 01, 2019 @08:21AM (#19542552)
The effort of the Academy to create new words top-down (partly) inspired us to make a parodic website: https://bitoduc.fr/

I think french rappers (which are amazing imho) create more words successfully because they have a mechanics for popularizing the new words. They can have a word adopted with one song.

My problem with the Academy is rather simple, if an entire profession use "deadlock" successfully, why complicate things creating a new word like "interblocage"? For technical fields this may brings confusion.

Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by seszett on Monday April 01, 2019 @08:54AM (#19542736)
The word "interblocage" has been used for at least a century in mechanics though. It's just a very straightforward word that anyone could come up with to describe such a situation, and one that is immediately understandable to a French speaker. I'm pretty sure the confusion would come from using "deadlock" to someone who knows "interblocage", rather than the contrary.
Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by jkepler on Monday April 01, 2019 @10:47AM (#19543775)
I glanced at your list, and thought this one in particular was brilliant: SOAP (Simple Object Access Protocol) <--> SAVON (Simple Accès Vers Objets Nuageux)
Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by p0nce on Monday April 01, 2019 @12:20PM (#19544955)
It's a collective effort!
Re:The Guardians of the French Language Are Deadlocked by cm2187 on Monday April 01, 2019 @04:13AM (#19541440)
Nah. They try to find and promote alternative words but no one uses them.