As someone who spent quite a few years in the rave scene hanging out with a lot of drug users and trying a lot of drugs, I’d probably put ketamine way down on the list if I’m ranking them on addictiveness. I’d say most people that tried it didn’t even like it. It’s a particular kind of personality that would take a dissociative anesthetic recreationally. I tried it a couple of times and never really enjoyed it much unless I was mixing it with mdma — at best I’d call it ‘an interesting experience’

Which isn’t to say that I didn’t know people who abused it way beyond “normal” recreational use, but those people were abusing every drug they could find.

Swim is genuinely loving K yet finds pop drugs like cocaine or mdma boring and experiences nowhere as inspiring. Dissaciative state can be scary at first, but can be learnt to control.

"SWIM" is an absurd term with precisely zero legal or other benefit. Stop using it. It demeans any statement it's connected with.

I agree, I've seen it on a couple of forums and just go with it. I don't know if this is out of fashion sorry!

Most people don’t want to use drugs that are scary. That’s why I said it takes a particular kind of personality.

Interesting, for swim mdma is the best party drug hands down. For tripping with friends swim usually chooses shrooms. Hasn't tried K, but will give it a shot when opportunity comes.

Just trying to say there are people who prefer K to many other popular drugs. Not for everyone though.

Doses required for ketogenic bladder are in the order of >1g/day for prolonged periods (months to years). These doses are fairly incompatible with a regular productive life and are of little concern to the regular or occasional recreational user

Tolerance my friend. Tolerance.

Were you using recreationally or as prescribed under the supervision of a doctor?

Oh, if it wasn't clear, I was addicted to it :)