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Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by digitalixus on Saturday March 30, 2019 @02:41AM (#19528149)
Or car markers could just stop being stubborn and greedy with their proprietary trash and just support Car Play/Android Auto. That way the car acts as a dumb terminal for displaying stuff from the phone and nothing is actually stored in the car.

But no, gotta charge hundreds for in-car map updates (that only get updated as often as you purchase them) and radio/traffic subscription that mobile apps charge a fraction of and always up-to-date for as long as you keep the apps updated.

Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by ndnxhs on Saturday March 30, 2019 @03:40AM (#19528325)
You just listed 2 more bits of proprietary crap though.
Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by hanniabu on Saturday March 30, 2019 @05:49AM (#19528636)
They're more slave than masters though, pretty much relayers in a sense. They're also more standard. For some reason standardization is always underappreciated
Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by cptskippy on Saturday March 30, 2019 @02:53AM (#19528197)
I agree with you that car makers should stop trying to provide piss poor alternatives to our phones and instead acts as conduits for them and I remember things like PlaysForSure so I am much more in favor of an open standard like Bluetooth that doesn't live or die by one company.
Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by voltagex_ on Saturday March 30, 2019 @06:54AM (#19528808)
I'm pretty sure the phonebook thing is OBEX. You probably don't want the car hitting your phone for the phonebook every time you want to make a call. IVI systems are slow enough as it is.
Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by cptskippy on Saturday March 30, 2019 @12:06PM (#19530099)
Yeah, I was reluctant to say Bluetooth because it implied that we should stick with existing protocols but that isn't exactly what I meant to say. Rather we should have some forward thinking protocol that works over multiple interfaces and is still open and platform independent like Bluetooth. Maybe even just a baseline Car Dock standard requiring Microphone, Speakers, and a Touch Display.

Bluetooth is just so encumbered with legacy concepts and limitations. It hosts a myriad of protocols that don't benefit users but are easy to implement to check the Bluetooth feature checkbox. There's a full generation of Bluetooth equipped cars that only support headset or handsfree protocols but not A2DP or other useful protocols people want.

Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by mikeash on Saturday March 30, 2019 @08:39AM (#19529110)
I agree for most car makers, but I personally find Tesla’s UI to be better than CarPlay. And the map updates are free.
Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by eclipxe on Saturday March 30, 2019 @10:25AM (#19529554)
Agree 100%
Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by eclipxe on Saturday March 30, 2019 @10:24AM (#19529548)
Tesla doesn’t charge for map updates.
Re:Totaled Teslas contain unencrypted and personally reveali... by dustindiamond on Saturday March 30, 2019 @06:42AM (#19528777)
I was really hoping for Apple and Google to create a bidirectional standard similar to PCoIP (a la VMware), and be able to essentially use the car’s touchscreen as a thinclient to the phone.