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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by kurtisc on Friday March 29, 2019 @01:31PM (#19523755)
When someone's in a car and they see someone else in a car blow through a red light, they say something along the lines of 'that person's an idiot'. When they someone on a bike do it, they say 'cyclists are idiots'.

If I count how many laws people in cars break when I drive home tonight - speeding, illegal parking, etc. - I'll run out of fingers and toes.

Ultimately the worst thing someone on a bike can do to me in a car is cause me a delay. The worst thing I can do to them is kill them. So I give them the benefit of the doubt.

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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by maceurt on Friday March 29, 2019 @02:51PM (#19524438)
There are a lot less cyclers than drivers, and cyclists are more likely to run redlights or stops signs than drivers.
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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by tonyedgecombe on Friday March 29, 2019 @06:00PM (#19526030)
That is wrong: https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-b...
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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by maceurt on Thursday April 04, 2019 @12:14AM (#19569259)
One study involving 100 cyclists in one city is not conclusive at all. Also, the cyclists knew they were being tracked and monitored so they probably were more adherent to traffic laws during this study.

Anecdotally, I have seen a lot higher percentage of cyclists breaking traffic laws than drivers, and it seems a lot of people have observed that in their own day to day life also.

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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by cpt1138 on Friday March 29, 2019 @03:21PM (#19524704)
Do have any data to back up that claim? I assume the "California stop" is not isolated to California.
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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by d6e on Friday March 29, 2019 @01:55PM (#19523986)
Reminds me of this https://www.xkcd.com/385/

I suppose sweeping generalizations like that are a matter of who is in your out-group and who is in your in-group.

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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by pytyper2 on Friday March 29, 2019 @04:40PM (#19525467)
Worked with a guy like that once, In his review I wrote he was a great inductive reasoner.
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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by pytyper2 on Friday March 29, 2019 @04:38PM (#19525442)
What if you swerve to miss a cyclist and hit a small child? That seems worse than killing the cyclist.
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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by manicdee on Friday March 29, 2019 @05:29PM (#19525835)
What if you drive safely so you don't have to swerve to avoid the small child?
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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by pytyper2 on Friday March 29, 2019 @07:20PM (#19526442)
Accidents happen, just because you find yourself in a situation that requires you to swerve does not mean you were driving unsafe. Why does swerving imply the driver is unsafe? Surely you can imagine a safe driver having to swerve in some situations, right?
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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by ubu7737 on Saturday March 30, 2019 @10:08AM (#19529441)
I'm curious, what situations are you imagining, that swerving a moving car is the safe move? Like, that's ridiculous.
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Re:Dehumanization of cyclists predicts self-reported aggress... by pytyper2 on Saturday March 30, 2019 @04:23PM (#19531608)
I did not say the swerve was safe, I said that a even safe driver (driver who drives defensively) driver might have to swerve. Any unplanned reactionary movement of the steering is of course not safe. Seems like you misread what I typed, or maybe you're a natural gaslighter?
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