Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by pcwalton on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @08:44PM
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Doesn't India disallow dual citizenship? Wikipedia [1] claims that Article 9 of the Indian Constitution forbids it (note that the Overseas Citizenship of India designation is not actually citizenship). So denaturalization would legally leave the person stateless. Making a person stateless against their will is considered a serious violation of human rights, regardless of what they have done.
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by diebeforei485 on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @09:07PM
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Fair point, although there is no way that "year and a day" is enough punishment for this.
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by nerdponx on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @08:38PM
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If he's a citizen, that probably violates the Equal Protection clause.
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by rdtsc on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @08:41PM
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That does happen for lying on the immigration and naturalization forms. We have have deported and denaturalized Nazi concentration camp guards before.
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by sushisushisushi on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @08:37PM
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There's a reason why denaturalization usually only happens if you perjured your way into citizenship: it's an extremely severe action that is not meant to be a punishment, but rather to correct a mistake (according citizenship to somebody who in reality failed to meet certain criteria).
Denaturalization as punishment is something you see in totalitarian ethno-states, not democracies.
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by cm2187 on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @08:44PM
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No in France you can loose your acquired nationality if you participated to terrorism against France. Was voted in the aftermath of the Paris attacks, though wasn't of much use since all the terrorists of those attacks were natives of either France or Belgium.
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by alasdair_ on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @09:01PM
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I wonder what happens if someone like Le Pen ever gets in charge. Being able to de-naturalize "terrorists" sounds like a pretty serious power that could be abused.
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by cam_l on Thursday March 28, 2019 @02:53AM
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..and Australia, if you have been sentenced for a serious crime (more than 3yrs, iirc). (0)
Hell, we don't even particularly care if we make them stateless. (1)
(0) https://www.sbs.com.au/news/new-laws-will-strip-australian-e...
(1) https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-08/neil-prakash-defin...
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by zaarn on Thursday March 28, 2019 @07:08AM
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Germany allows it to, but only in case of dual citizenship and people returning from ISIS-supportive groups in foreign countries.
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by pkaye on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @10:39PM
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What about the UK and Shamima Begum losing UK citizenship?
Re:Prison for visa fraud in case involving Bay Area workers
by toomuchtodo on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:03PM
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Mistakenly nationalized someone without the character UK citizenship demands. (EDIT: /s)
This guy Katam was an immigrant himself, and became a US Citizen in 2009. If I was emperor, I would want him denaturalized. A year or so in prison is not enough punishment.