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Re:The SR-71 Spy Plane Was So Fast, It Outran Every Missile ... by darkpuma on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @03:42PM (#19505114)
> "Is there any single piece of technology that's more retro-futuristic than the SR-71?"

Maybe not more, but up there with it are the Concorde, and the H&K G11.

Also, if you like the SR-71, check out the A-12. The immediate predecessor of the SR-71, very easy to confuse the two, with the notable exception of the A-12 having a single seat. I think that makes it even cooler. Just one pilot, no other aircrew, up there alone with the machine. That's really incredible to me.

Re:The SR-71 Spy Plane Was So Fast, It Outran Every Missile ... by aidenn0 on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:31PM (#19506276)
+1 on the G11. Any bullpup rifle already looks reto-futuristic; combine it with caseless ammunition, the ability to fire a 3 round burst in 80ms before buffering happens and the 90 degree rotating feeding system, and you've got something that still feels sci-fi today.-
Re:The SR-71 Spy Plane Was So Fast, It Outran Every Missile ... by jnurmine on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @04:02PM (#19505370)
I was not familiar with A-12 and looked it up. Wow.

With the wingtips are folded up, the A-12 looks like something out of Star Wars.

The triangular shape is reminiscent of B-2 Spirit, though these are of course completely different beasts. Both the A-12 and B-2 were designed during roughly the same era, late 1980s. I guess there was some kind of cross-pollination of ideas (maybe via DARPA) for a triangular design to appear like this?

Re:The SR-71 Spy Plane Was So Fast, It Outran Every Missile ... by mandevil on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @04:14PM (#19505520)
I think you and GP are discussing different A-12's. GP is referring to the Lockheed A-12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_A-12 and you are referring to the McDonnell-Douglas A-12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_A-12_Avenger...

Don't even bother trying to figure out US military naming schemes.

I suspect that the reason the A-12 and the B-2 looked alike is that there is enough similarity in mission that the best shape ended up that way. (Or as an old friend used to say, "aerodynamics can't lie.")

Re:The SR-71 Spy Plane Was So Fast, It Outran Every Missile ... by darkpuma on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @06:38PM (#19506900)
Aye, the Lockheed A-12. It was apparently the 12th iteration of the CIA's "Archangel" program, hence "A-12."

Knowing the CIA, that designation may have been misdirection too. 'Main battle tanks' are called 'tanks' today because of WWI era misdirection. Instead of calling them "armoured tractors" or something descriptive like that, the British called them "water carriers." The abbreviation of that (w.c.) was considered crude though, so they were renamed "tanks" as in a container for carrying water. This was to ensure any German spy who overheard the wrong conversation would get the wrong impression.

Re:The SR-71 Spy Plane Was So Fast, It Outran Every Missile ... by jnurmine on Thursday March 28, 2019 @05:40PM (#19516920)
Oh yeah, you are right.

The Lockheed A-12 has a familiar appearance... I always thought it somehow looks like a flying dragrace car. Everything in it screams "fast".

And as for the "wrong" (McDonnell-Douglas) A-12, another thing I found interesting was that some of the modern drone designs also have the same triangular shape. (Like X47-B, X45-C/Phantom Ray, nEUROn, RQ-170)

And the X47-B can even fold its wings!

Re:The SR-71 Spy Plane Was So Fast, It Outran Every Missile ... by macoovacany on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @06:55PM (#19507066)
Talk by the A-12 pilot, Frank Murray. Refers to the SR-71 as the "family model".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGdxpqqsHl8

Re:The SR-71 Spy Plane Was So Fast, It Outran Every Missile ... by tyingq on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @03:55PM (#19505267)
I'd throw in the H&K XM25 grenade launcher on the list as well. Wouldn't be out of place in a sci-fi movie.