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Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by kriro on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @10:27AM (#19501068)
"""try to read bad handwriting from records from nuclear weapons plants. It's a dull job a monkey could do but it pays the bills."""

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"""For years I worked as a computer guy for an academic department and that was fun and I'm trying to get back into it"""

Sounds like you could enjoy automating your work. Learn a bit of Python and some Machine Learning/Deep Learning and digitize the handwriting and build a little program that reads the stuff for you. The default example for reading handwritten digits is called MNIST if you want to read further. I'd suggest fast.ai and watching the first couple of lessons. That should get you started to play around with this. You don't have to tell anyone that you do this (I probably wouldn't) but hey at least it might be a nice way to do a little less boring stuff and ease into a bit of programmin/data science?

Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by superhuzza on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @10:35AM (#19501173)
I would be very, very hesitant to to this.

First of all, you definitely don't want any chance of incorrect recognition of handwriting coming from a nuclear weapons plant.

Secondly, who knows what policies he might violate by using some unauthorized, untested software (whether OP is the author or not) with potentially sensitive information.

Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by ratsimihah on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:02AM (#19501484)

    First of all, you definitely don't want any chance of incorrect recognition of handwriting coming from a nuclear weapons plant.
Loving this, this sounds like the plot of a bad sci-fi movie.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by debatem1 on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:07AM (#19501552)
It reminds me of the start of "Brazil", bugs and all.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by billwear on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @12:34PM (#19502686)
Sounds like a plot for a really decent sci-fi book with an AI as the antagonist.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by fabiomaia on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @10:55AM (#19501399)
He can use it such that the model's predictions are still manually verified by him before actually submitting them or whatever. Seems pretty harmless to me.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by throwaway2019Z on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:06AM (#19501538)
In his current situation, if he zones out, he produces nothing. In the situation where he's aided by the potentially faulty described system, if he zones out, he produces erroneously transcribed data.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by fabiomaia on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @12:08PM (#19502361)
What? In his current situation, if he zones out, he can produce erroneously transcribed data too. What's your point?
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by throwaway2019Z on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @03:39PM (#19505080)
What? In his current situation, even if he doesn't zone out, he can still produce erroneously transcribed data too. Why even go to work?
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by Retric on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:07AM (#19501544)
Manual verification is likely just as tedious as doing it by hand in the first place.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by fabiomaia on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @12:07PM (#19502344)
Probably. But maybe he'll get a kick out of modeling and automating it. Challenging his intellect seems to be the key point here.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by sergiosgc on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:15AM (#19501650)
I'd first go for a pareto approach. There's probably some easy automation that can aid the manual work, which is easy to implement and provides visible performance gains. Stuff like pre selecting interesting image parts (aim for high false positive rates and zero false negatives) or even just an interface for speeding up dull manual work like pulling documents from the repository, associating relevant documents and presenting them in a fast acting UI.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by fma on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @12:40PM (#19502752)
I've done something similar, automating a similar process. Essentially the screen was split on half. The left was the actual image, the right was the data of what the program thinks it is after OCR and some magic interpretation. The user can scroll around and both panes would move together. User clicks accepts on each value. Otherwise user can edit each value, or add a new value (if it was completely missed) and then accept. Once everything is accepted they can save the data.

On paper it saved a lot of man hours but it was never fully rolled out. The project didn't have a long lifespan and we had enough people sitting around doing nothing to just manually do all the work. But I got a nice award for it LOL.

Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by digitalsushi on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:22AM (#19501772)
one could make a similar argument that no one should have tried making a car that could drive better than a human
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by avar on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @11:28AM (#19501855)
This is more like some guy in the early 1900s having the job of hand-delivering important information on a horse.

Then deciding on his own on the advice of HN that he should try a car for that task instead, the car breaking down, and the guy getting fired because his employer never approved of this whole "car" thing and he shouldn't have introduced that into his job workflow without having talked to his employer about it.

Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by eightorbit on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @10:41AM (#19501222)
I will take a look at it, thanks. I have tried some off the shelf OCR things and had little success. But what I do is really needle in the haystack kind of thing. I am looking for a "U" or and "Sr" in a particular place and happy to find one in a thousand pdf pages.

I am looking into auto-scrolling pdfs and batch loading, sequencing of pdfs to make things easier. But I will definitely check out fast.ai - thanks!

Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by indy7500 on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @10:35AM (#19501176)
Only problem is I don't know how likely it would be that the writing is neatly separated by character for mnist to work, and handwriting recognition isn't accurate enough. Maybe some restraints on the inputs will fix that
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by taneq on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @10:00PM (#19508453)
Regretfully pragmatic viewpoint here: The poster is currently relying on this menial job for income. Automating it before he has something else lined up could be a really bad idea, financially.
Re:Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these d... by sonofaragorn on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @10:31AM (#19501121)
This is a great idea. If you manage to pull this off you'd gain extremely valuable experience that would allow you to easily transition later on.