Re:Generating More of My Favorite Aphex Twin Track
by bhrgunatha on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @10:33PM
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I spent a huge amount of time playing around with a demo of SSEYO Koan Pro which Eno used to make Generative Music 1 [1] and which evolved over time into Wotja by Intermorphic [2]. It's about time I tried Wotja out!
Re:Generating More of My Favorite Aphex Twin Track
by pcf on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @02:33PM
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This should be doable? You could feed your entire catalogue into the machine, and have it start generating music. For every pass, you could listen to the created piece and tell it "I would not make anything like element X, because of [specific reason], so take that out."
Enough of these passes and detailed removal of elements you wouldn't create, and you should get closer and closer to a machine that would be your musical clone.
Re:Generating More of My Favorite Aphex Twin Track
by AgentME on Thursday March 28, 2019 @07:57PM
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This is missing the complexity to a lot of music. Swap "music" in your post for "books" or "software" or "human interactions" and maybe the skipped complexity becomes obvious. What if the key ingredient to someone's music is a long over-arching structure throughout the song of highs and lows following the emotional progression of a predictable 3-act story? The software would need to be capable of recognizing and synthesizing and tuning that kind of high-level element and surely many others like that. Even songs that are made up of a few repeating tracks overlaid probably have high-level qualities like that the artist tweaks the setup until the end results meet the high-level goal they were aiming for.
I'm sure a musician who was also a programmer who understood their own tastes and creation process well enough could currently create something like this for a specific genre, but I think we're very far from a one-size-fits-all generator.
Re:Generating More of My Favorite Aphex Twin Track
by TheOtherHobbes on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @07:32AM
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You need a machine description of "element" - which turns out to be a lot harder than it sounds.
Q: If I could give you a black box that could do anything, what would you have it do?
A: I would love to have a box onto which I could offload choice making. A thing that makes choices about its outputs, and says to itself, This is a good output, reinforce that, or replay it, or feed it back in. I would love to have this machine stand for me. I could program this box to be my particular taste and interest in things.
Q: Why do you want to do that? You have you.
A: Yes, I have me. But I want to be able to sell systems for making my music as well as selling pieces of music. In the future, you won't buy artists' works; you'll buy software that makes original pieces of "their" works, or that recreates their way of looking at things. You could buy a Shostakovich box, or you could buy a Brahms box. You might want some Shostakovich slow-movement-like music to be generated. So then you use that box. Or you could buy a Brian Eno box. So then I would need to put in this box a device that represents my taste for choosing pieces.
[1] https://www.wired.com/1995/05/eno-2/