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Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by aphextron on Saturday March 23, 2019 @09:15PM (#19473440)
>Which aspects of the New Zealand government's response do you object to?

Namely the banning of the manifesto. Blocking images of violence is one thing. But making the leap to blocking ideas is on a whole other level. I’m all for de-platforming. No one should be forced to host your vile content, legal or not. But for the government of your country to ban a specific string of characters as a criminal matter is terrifying.

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by colejohnson66 on Saturday March 23, 2019 @10:56PM (#19473902)
Why is banning a string of characters terrifying, but not a string of bits?
Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by oska on Sunday March 24, 2019 @01:28AM (#19474548)
In my opinion aphextron was being overly reductionist in describing the manifesto as just a string of characters.

The manifesto was a presentation of a political viewpoint (and perhaps a call to action - I don't know, I haven't read it). The manifesto qualifies as speech.

The video was a record of a criminal act of great violence. I wouldn't classify the video as speech. (In contrast, a fictional portrayal of the same acts but made with actors and no-one dying would be speech).

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by telesilla on Sunday March 24, 2019 @04:22AM (#19475131)
New Zealand, and many other parts of the world, do not share the U.S.'s "free speech" concept. Speech is not protected and yet the country is high on the freedom of press index.

https://freespeechfreepress.wordpress.com/new-zealand/

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by aphextron on Sunday March 24, 2019 @10:05AM (#19476395)
>Speech is not protected and yet the country is high on the freedom of press index.

For now.

The lessons learned and recorded through 2000 years of Western history, starting with the Greeks and culminating in the American revolution, was that such things can never be relied upon unless guaranteed by law.

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by oska on Sunday March 24, 2019 @04:36AM (#19475189)
I'm not from the USA and I didn't make any reference to the US in my comment. I've already dealt with this false argument elsewhere in the thread. [1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19473330

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by baud147258 on Monday March 25, 2019 @12:21PM (#19483892)
I've seen purported extracts of the manifesto, they were mostly trolling