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Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by throwaway713 on Saturday March 23, 2019 @05:46PM (#19472525)
A little bit unrelated, but does anyone else get severe anxiety reading articles like this? I’m currently employed in a well-paying tech job, but it always seems like I’m just one giant disaster away from this kind of thing. Granted, I have a family “safety net” to fall back on in a worst case scenario, which I realize a lot of people don’t have, but it’s always in the back of my mind that the economy could crash, that my skills are suddenly not in demand, or some weird health insurance disaster wipes out my retirement savings. I constantly feel like I need to save up as much money as possible to reach financial independence as quickly as I can so that I’m prepared for some kind of unforeseen catastrophe.
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by f34 on Saturday March 23, 2019 @08:13PM (#19473111)
I was wiped out back in 2017. I was a web developer living in Dallas and making 90K a year. My manager and I didn't get along and I eventually ended up on a PIP. After 30 days I realized I wasn't going to meet the PIP goals and resigned before being fired. I wasn't worried, I had about 50K in cash and 20K in credit, and I surly could find a job before it ran out. I was wrong. I got very few interviews and when I did, they were more fit than technology focused. I might as well have picked a number between 1 and 100 to decide the interview.

There comes a point when you go into emergency mode and start planning for the worst. We made it to tax season and got our return. we bought a used car and moved to Tulsa, Ok for the cheaper rent. I had also spent 20 years there when I was younger and felt confident I could find a development or any job. It didn't go as planned. I got plenty of interviews, but none panned out. Many employers questioned my time without a job and I think that and my rusting skills keep me unemployed. Hell, I can't even get a blue-collar job. And it didn't help that the used car broke down and I had to walk and ride public buses every where. Now my wife works for $8.50 an hour at a diner and that's what we make it on. I'm in a worse position than before I went to college and it makes me bitter about life, people, hiring practices, and that so much depends on luck and timing.

So yeah, you never know what's coming. Save all you can and keep working towards financial independence, which is the only real guarantee.

Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by DegreeChamp on Sunday March 24, 2019 @01:47PM (#19477628)
Just wanted to give 4 quick suggestions to help you get a job:

1) Add your email in your HN profile in the “about” section. I’m certain there’s a lot of people who really resonated with your story and potentially interested in hiring you, but have zero ways of contacting you. You have to do everything you can to increase your “luck quotient”.

2) Post in “Ask HN: Who wants to be hired” when it comes up again. Mention either remote or local depending on what you’re looking for. Be very honest with your story and what you’re looking for.

3) Reach out to founders in startups in the Oklahoma area if you want to work locally. I know a lot of founders and almost all of them are desperate to hire good developers. Even if your skills are "rusty" the smartest ones will realize it won’t take long for you to get up to speed.

4) Send me an email with a resume. I might be interested or know someone who is.

Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by driverdan on Saturday March 23, 2019 @08:47PM (#19473288)
How are you applying for jobs? Are you spraying and praying or are you going to meetups and such to network and get recommendations? Cold resumes won't get nearly as far as a recommendation. Have you applied to remote jobs? Contract jobs? Looked for freelance work?
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by thatoneuser on Saturday March 23, 2019 @09:29PM (#19473502)
I'll be real, it sounds like you're giving the generic "I just Googled how to get a job" advice and in my personal experience - this kind of advice rarely accomplishes anything and leaves you more distraught than before.
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by dabockster on Sunday March 24, 2019 @01:53PM (#19477665)
>I just Googled how to get a job

It’s worse than that. It reads like something a LinkedIn “influencer” who hasn’t had to actively look for a job in 30 years would write.

Here’s some insights from my current job search:

>Meetups I live 45 minutes away from Seattle. On a good day, it’s a 1.5 hour round trip commute. With Seattle traffic factored in, it can balloon to 3-4 hours round trip. The last two meetups I did go to were full of boot camp students and very few actual employed devs. (Side note, only one of the five boot camps that were there had the WA state technical school accdredidation.) The Meetup talks were glorified sales pitches for B2B AI analytics products (with one company admitting that its AI was actually third world upwork contractors in an news interview a week later).

>Remote work Not in a position to negotiate that unless you mean 1099 freelance work. 1099 is a hardship since I’d have to basically set up my own business at that point. (I will never do a sole proprietorship since the personal risk is too high if the business fails or I get sued for something.)

>contact and freelance jobs Did you read what I just said?

Anyways, I’m logging off HN again and working on my blog. I really need to block this site since all I see here anymore are innane comments like these.

Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by driverdan on Sunday March 24, 2019 @04:42PM (#19478642)
Sorry if I came of condescending, that wasn't my intention. I was trying understand the situation in case there was something I could do to help.

>Remote work Not in a position to negotiate that

There are many remote jobs available now. Check out https://github.com/lukasz-madon/awesome-remote-job#job-board... for a list of boards that show remote jobs. Remote work isn't for everyone but it opens up a much wider selection if you're having trouble finding something local.

Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by thatoneuser on Monday March 25, 2019 @06:34PM (#19487371)
Didn't mean to be hard on you! It's just frustrating as someone who's sought those avenues before only to fine people who want to underlay, sketchiness, people who just wanna feel the waters or even people who are trying to catfish for recruiting. It just came off as tho you had never tried to do those things before because they're so generic and rarely produce results. But thanks for that link I'll be looking through it later!
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by thatoneuser on Monday March 25, 2019 @06:37PM (#19487396)
Yeah I know one person who's had success using meet-up for pretty much anything other than trivia night at a bar and even she thinks it's in the way out. It's too bad our search engines are so poor at finding quality results these days. Maybe that's part of the problem, but I don't see a next Gen search engine coming any time soon.
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by MarvelousWololo on Sunday March 24, 2019 @03:11AM (#19474908)
Jesus. I almost had a panic attack reading your story mate. I'm so sorry I hope your life turn better soon. Where did you go to college if you don't mind me asking?
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by B-Con on Saturday March 23, 2019 @06:10PM (#19472614)
Not severe, but every so often I am reminded of the big picture of life. So many industries, economies, societies, nations, etc, have been upended throughout, leaving large numbers of well-meaning relatively prepared people in ruin.

I'm happy that the money is flowing into tech. But on the same token, maaaaybe it's a bubble? My brain won't dismiss that thought.

I think the fundamental lesson is that we can't take anything for granted, and the stability of the tech industry is just one of those things. Nothing guarantees the USD (my currency) won't plummet, the housing market won't implode, another financial crisis caused by psychopathic bankers won't happen, or ISIS won't nuke NYC.

It's part of "growing up", too. When you're young and have a decent set of middle class parents, you see the world as being very reliable and rigid. Thing are they way they are and you can depend on them. The grown ups take care of stuff, they practically make magic happen.

As you age, you see strong things now that didn't exist before, and weak things now that were strong before. You keep seeing the world as more fluid. And you learn about all the crap that's hit other people and you know, deep down, you weren't born specially exempt from it. The people who "take care of these things"? They're your peers. They can't work magic. And if they understand their job as well as you understand yours, things start to feel uncomfortably like a house of cards.

But hey, Netflix has a new season of $popularShow. That and a refreshing beverage sound like a good way to spend the evening.

Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by scruple on Saturday March 23, 2019 @06:58PM (#19472796)
> Netflix has a new season of $popularShow. That and a refreshing beverage sound like a good way to spend the evening.

And that's a good way to spend a Saturday evening. It's also also not an excuse to not prepare for the future.

Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by B-Con on Saturday March 23, 2019 @09:03PM (#19473385)
Right, it's more commentary on how much of our society is built around ignoring life's pressures.
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by MIKarlsen on Saturday March 23, 2019 @06:00PM (#19472574)
I'm a big worrier myself, and these thoughts often get the better of me. I have been unemployed for a couple of months last year, and although I live in a scandinavian country, it was still tough to see others in the same situation struggling.

I think society has a great responsibility in educating citizens correctly. A lot of the people I met had no grasp of technology, or its role in society, which is a big warning-light in my eyes. Everyone is saying "AI and robotics wont take your job", but it absolutely will, as the jobs the new industry creates seems to be STEM-jobs that require long STEM-educations - something not everyone is cut out for.

I feel like we're yet to see the full consequence of technology's role in our society, and I fear that we will end up with a big chunk of people who cannot actively contribute to the workforce.

Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by djrobstep on Saturday March 23, 2019 @06:08PM (#19472605)
One of the big advantages of having a good welfare state is that (apart from lower inequality and dignity for all) people just worry less!
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by perfmode on Saturday March 23, 2019 @05:58PM (#19472568)
Yes. I won’t survive a perfect storm.
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by TomMckenny on Saturday March 23, 2019 @06:06PM (#19472600)
It need not be perfect, we're all one modest car accident away from a life on the streets.
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by phry on Saturday March 23, 2019 @06:13PM (#19472623)
absolutely, and the scary thing is that

> I’m just one giant disaster away from this kind of thing.

this is true for the vast majority of Americans, given that somewhere between 60-70% have less than $1000 in savings

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/18/few-americans-have-enough-sa...

Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by astrodust on Saturday March 23, 2019 @06:22PM (#19472655)
I'm sure most Americans have "savings" in the form of "maybe I can beg and plead for a credit limit increase if something really bad happens".
Re:Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing fac... by ams6110 on Saturday March 23, 2019 @08:08PM (#19473088)
Welcome to being a grown-up. These worries have been part of being a responsible adult for forever.