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Re:A brief history of why artists are no longer making a liv... by tomcam on Thursday March 21, 2019 @08:50PM (#19458781)
> no one really considers it high art. any barroom crooner could sing and play it

Um, no. I say this as a holder of season tickets to the opera and as a trained operatic tenor myself. Many, many pop singers are incredibly good and far outstrip the skills of most barroom singers I have experienced.

Re:A brief history of why artists are no longer making a liv... by throwaway8879 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @09:07PM (#19458854)
Oh definitely. I don't think people know how much work goes into the typical pop song, even though it may sound like anyone could write and record it.

People think they could sing Britney Spears just like her until they get behind a mic to record. Most people don't even know the cringey feeling of "God, I didn't know my voice sounded like that" after having heard their own recorded voice for the first time. Or how out of tune and rhythm they actually are.

So no. Everybody thinks they could sing the typical pop song, but I doubt that they could.

Re:A brief history of why artists are no longer making a liv... by mamon on Thursday March 21, 2019 @09:33PM (#19458956)
It's not that pop singers aren't talented. It's just that pop music as a genre is pretty much boring, and the artists that appear every season, or every "America's got talent" edition, they all are easily forgettable. You could switch covers and sell Selena Gomez album as Ariana Grande album and noone would even notice the difference.

Pop music is a commodity, and as any commodity it's pricing/value is basically a race to bottom.

Re:A brief history of why artists are no longer making a liv... by tomcam on Friday March 22, 2019 @06:53AM (#19461257)
That’s not the point GP made. Selena Gomez and Ariana Grande have roughly similar genres but Ariana is a musical titan who can famously sing in any style she chooses.
Re:A brief history of why artists are no longer making a liv... by clairity on Friday March 22, 2019 @12:04PM (#19463872)
sure, some pop artists have great skill, but that's beside the point.

my point was that singing entertainment (e.g., pop) is widely available (someone sitting near you right now can probably sing well enough to be entertaining), so not scarce. you can find millions of decent takes on pop songs on youtube.

and further, the level of passable entertainment is low, both because plenty of people can sing passably, and because enjoyment of the music comes not from admiring the skill but mostly from other factors.