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Re:There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did ... by seanmcdirmid on Thursday March 21, 2019 @10:38AM (#19452817)
I’ve done Shanghai to Urumqi before in a hard sleeper. I don’t think I really saw much outside (no observation car, monotonous farming fields), but the people on the train were really interesting (eg Pakistani traders using the train to get back home).
Re:There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did ... by tungwaiyip on Thursday March 21, 2019 @05:00PM (#19457269)
One of the most memorable ride was a trip from Vietnam to Kunming in the 90s. I hope this old line is still running. The train travels along a canyon. The view is incomparably stunning.

China rail have pretty bad hygiene at that time. The passengers freely throw their trash on the floor and out of the window. The attendants swiped the floor every few hours. Every time they pushed a mountain of peanut husk away. There was a peasant family on board with a baby. The baby needed to relief. So the parents held him up to have him shit on the floor. The attendant saw it and really lost it. She scolded the hell out of the family.

Re:There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did ... by seanmcdirmid on Thursday March 21, 2019 @05:15PM (#19457397)
I heard about that rail line, it was supposed to be very slow given the gauge of the line put in by the French who built it. Passenger service stopped in 2005 according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunming–Haiphong_railway.
Re:There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did ... by tungwaiyip on Thursday March 21, 2019 @08:35PM (#19458709)
Sad. I thought I saw it coming.
Re:There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did ... by CWuestefeld on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:06PM (#19453935)
I went Shanghai to the Yellow Mountains on a very old, slow sleeper train. It was basically a dormitory, with bunks three high. And you don't want to know about the bathrooms - it's really just a hole in the floor, falling onto the tracks.

But even so, it was a wonderful experience. The Chinese landscape is nothing short of awesome. And the culture that unfolded was completely unknown to me, so constantly interesting.

One thing that really made me take notice was the wide range of people. On the way to the Shanghai train station, we had walked by a Lamborghini dealership (I don't recall ever having seen even one of these in the USA) - there's a not-insignificant population of filthy rich people in and around Shanghai. But on the train we saw people peasants using an ox to plow a rice paddy of only a fraction of an acre. The degree of inequality was hugely wider than America or any other nation I've seen.

EDIT: the Shanghai airport maglev train was an interesting experience just to say I've gone 300+mph on a train, but otherwise totally boring.

Re:There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did ... by seanmcdirmid on Thursday March 21, 2019 @01:39PM (#19455092)
Yes, that is what we call a hard sleeper :). A soft sleeper in contrast is usually four bunks in its own room.

I’ve also done Shanghai to Changsha and Changsha to kunming like that. It gets interesting west of hunan.

Re:There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did ... by lmm on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:10PM (#19453976)
There's some amazing scenery at the Urumqi end. E.g. I took this photo somewhere around there: https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/m3Wh2REpqnPIjHxe5FKNZQ...
Re:There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did ... by creaghpatr on Thursday March 21, 2019 @11:58AM (#19453858)
I did the Shanghai/Beijing bullet with some friends who had never been to China, it was great perspective for them and me to see all the massive cities in between that are not known outside of China but the size of New York City