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Re:UK Parliament petitions site crashes under traffic for pe... by simonh on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:27AM (#19451042)
>I would say the opposite: unless you do that, you have already given up on democracy.

As you say yourself, despite all that has happened, the vast majority of leavers and remainers still believe in the same choice. Most of the issues are matters of opinion, not fact. Even if leaving the EU is a disaster, many Brexiteers will believe it was only disaster because "it wasn't done properly".

My take on that is, this was a risk they chose to accept when voting for Brexit and which I chose not to accept when voting for remain. However they won the vote, so we all took that risk.

Re:UK Parliament petitions site crashes under traffic for pe... by ben_w on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:35AM (#19451094)
> Most of the issues are matters of opinion, not fact.

I don’t see how you can make this claim. Perhaps you have seen more mere-options than me?

Re:UK Parliament petitions site crashes under traffic for pe... by simonh on Thursday March 21, 2019 @08:40AM (#19451601)
The opinion that fewer immigrants will mean less crime. That our trade deal in the EU exposes our companies to unfair competition. That fewer immigrants will help preserve 'our' way of life. That we will be free to reach our own trade deals with other countries. Most of Brexit is about forward-looking hopes and expectations. I don't believe it, but it's hard to disprove because what do people even mean by 'our' culture, etc?
Re:UK Parliament petitions site crashes under traffic for pe... by ben_w on Friday March 22, 2019 @08:16AM (#19461778)
Hmm. I believe the two trade examples are testable (and as claims, the former false and the latter true).

The other two I will grant you, and I thank you for providing them.