Just what I need, another adapter that I have to remember to bring with me, not lose etc. Plus the one on Apples website doesn't allow you to charge while the adapter is plugged in, so its either headphone jack or charging cable. No, I do not want this.

Besides, for all of Apples space/thin-saving attempts, requiring me to use an adapter negates all of these completely.

>Just what I need, another adapter that I have to remember to bring with me, not lose etc.

Yeah, your smartphone has only replaced a camera, a portable movie player, a portable music player, a PDA, a phone, a GPS receiver and/or maps, a watch, a gameboy, and 5-6 other devices we had to carry (or couldn't afford to even have) before.

Now it's adding a dongle for headphones we have to remember to carry? Oh, the humanity!

(Plus the fact that there are also lightning equiped headphones).

> Now it's adding a dongle for headphones we have to remember to carry? Oh, the humanity!

It's like 3 dongles if you want to be able to charge and listen at the same time. Like, for example, on a long-distance flight. And it's a completely self-imposed limitation on Apple's part!

You don't need 3 dongles if you want to use wired headphones and charge at the same time. There are 3rd party adapters that plug into a lightning port and allow you to plug in a 3.5mm headphone and lightning cable for charging directly at the same time. There are cheap versions on Amazon.

Well, there’s also stuff like this: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/your-...

It seems to me that not Apple is forcing you to go wireless, you just don't want change. If I look around me in the streets, I see more wireless earpieces (not only from Apple) than wired ones in use. Looks like the mainstream loves going the Bluetooth route (and ditching cables and dongles).

But why should I want change if what they had before works better for me, personally, than what they want me to want? Wireless is all well and good, but I have enough things that run out of battery or get misplaced, so while I understand that its a super convenient technology for some people, for others like me, its unhelpful. Apples previous products were close to perfect for my use cases, but their new ones miss the mark, so they can have a millimeter thinner phones, or push their expensive earphones or whatever. Plus I like my existing headphones and don't want to replace them at this time.

That's yet another stupid adapter you have to take with you everywhere. Even though I personally use wireless headphones, I wouldn't want to buy something new when _already_ getting a new phone or whatever.

My iPhone came with one of those adapters. I just leave it attached to my headphones. Not a big deal.

I have an iPhone X, and a new iPad. Each has a separate port type, and the iPad didn't come with an adapter. My wife's newest gen iPhone didn't come with an adapter, it had to be purchased separately.

Your wife’s phone came with headphones that didn’t work with her phone?

I don't recall if they came with the standard apple headphones, but she doesn't use those. She has a good pair of Sennheiser earbuds, and so had to buy an adapter separately.

new iPhones come with lightning earpods

It’s also one more possible point of failure. My adapter causes intermittent skipping and cracklings noises, probably because the contact points aren’t secure. So I’ve basically stopped listening to music and podcasts on my iPhone 8 Plus because of it.

Agreed, it's annoying. Ended up attaching the adapter to my headphone cable with a velcro loop, as I also need to use them in my Macbook, which doesn't have Lightning. Would be even more annoying if I had the iPad Pro and also needed USB-C dongle.

Not willing to go wireless as I use both for music making and wireless latency and compression is unacceptable. On phones I kind of understand it but IMO the iPad Pro not having a headphone socket is not excusable, there must be a way to fit it in.

Oh good god, that adapter.

I can’t charge and listen to music. Phone low on battery? Hey guess what! Don’t you wish you has just bought our expensive blue tooth speakers?

NO. If I want actual sound I’ll get it from people who love for sound.