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Re:Java 12 by zmmmmm on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:43PM (#19436880)
It's fascinating reading a post like this because I feel exactly the same from the opposite perspective.

I feel bad for people trying to write in other languages and manually re-inventing dozens of features the JVM ecosystem just gives you for free. In many ways, the whole container-push has been essentially people trying to achieve what the JVM already gave you (isolation, cross platform, etc etc). I still don't see anything equivalent that doesn't impose huge burdens of complexity (which java does have but it's a known quantity with two decades of maturity).

Re:Java 12 by euyyn on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @03:24AM (#19439775)
> the whole container-push has been essentially people trying to achieve what the JVM already gave you (isolation, cross platform, etc etc)

Google did containers in Borg many years ago, and many of its servers are written in Java.

Re:Java 12 by pjmlp on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:59AM (#19441182)
Yep, WAR and EAR files with J2EE servers.

When I stopped caring about POSIX.

Re:Java 12 by ilovecaching on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:47PM (#19436911)
That's how much people hated writing Java. Also, Erlang would like to have a word with you.
Re:Java 12 by chii on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @09:29PM (#19438021)
> That's how much people hated writing Java.

or, they are more concerned with shiny new tech rather than using a mature and well-tooled out stack that doesn't sound sexy. I for one, don't need sexy tech - i want my app's domain to be the shining star, not the tech stack.