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Re:Java 12 by ses1984 on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @05:45PM (#19436320)
The Java ecosystem is still there and still rich. It didn't go away or stop growing because golang was released.

You'd rather use wasm to write c to talk to javascript apis? Your case against Java might be more compelling if it wasn't so gross itself.

Re:Java 12 by ilovecaching on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @05:48PM (#19436353)
You're only rich if everyone else is poorer than you. At the point Golang, Javascript, Ruby, and Python (these are just the ones I use) have huge completely open source ecosystems. Java's ecosystem is no longer a convincing argument that we should ignore everything else about the language and it's place in the current line up.
Re:Java 12 by ses1984 on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:10PM (#19436580)
No, they are all rich. But I would really hesitate to compare java to js, python, ruby, etc. They aren't as interchangeable.

I use all those languages too. Use the right tool for the job. Don't be dogmatic. And don't disparage others.

Would I start a new project in Java? Probably not. But I might reach for other jvm languages that were mentioned elsewhere. I'm definitely not too cool to work on an existing Java project. It's fine.

Re:Java 12 by ilovecaching on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:30PM (#19436754)
Don't conclude that someone is being dogmatic without compelling arguments. Java is a technology, it's ok for it to be superseded by changes in the landscape. I also never said that people should stop using Java, I simply said I felt bad for the people that had to work with it given that it's obsoleted by improvements in sandboxing, package management, and language design.