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Re:How to live without Google (2017) by distant_hat on Monday March 18, 2019 @06:38AM (#19419997)
I default to DuckDuckGo as my search engine though I use !g for anything it doesn't get right. I was on call with a colleague and we were problem solving and I needed to look up something and I typed it in the search box and a bunch of porn results came up. She just laughed but I knew it was a close shave. DuckDuckGo's image search can come up with porn for rather innocuous terms, e.g., https://duckduckgo.com/?q=search+reddit&t=ffab&iax=images&ia... for "search reddit" gets porn on the second screen for me.
Re:How to live without Google (2017) by dyukqu on Monday March 18, 2019 @06:50AM (#19420040)
Maybe it's your DDG "safe search" preferences. There are three options: Strict, Moderate, Off. I clicked the link you provided and not any adult content showed up (it's in "moderate" mode by default). Some adult content appeared in results after I changing it to "off".
Re:How to live without Google (2017) by distant_hat on Monday March 18, 2019 @07:24AM (#19420188)
OK, yea, my filter is set to off. But still, the search I made was regarding completely innocuous programming related stuff, why should adult results come up that quickly? My Google preferences are also set to no filtering and I looked almost 10 pages deep there (just to check), and no adult results showed up.
Re:How to live without Google (2017) by Const-me on Monday March 18, 2019 @08:05AM (#19420383)
You asked “reddit search” and there’s substantial amount of porn on reddit.

The majority of NSFW results in DDG comes from karmadecay.com, it’s a reverse image search engine.

Google doesn’t like that domain, you won’t get images from there even if you’ll search for the domain name. Google will only show result from that domain if you limit search to that domain with “site:karmadecay.com”

Have no idea why Google’s doing that. Could be google breaking antitrust laws (they have a reverse image search as well), or could be purely technical reasons.

Personally, I prefer DDG’s approach. If you’re using DDG in work environment and don’t want NSFW result, just set the safe search preference. Google appears to censor the results even if you explicitly asked not to.

Re:How to live without Google (2017) by SquareWheel on Monday March 18, 2019 @08:35AM (#19420519)
>Have no idea why Google’s doing that.

It's duplicate content. That's punished in the SERPs.

Re:How to live without Google (2017) by Const-me on Monday March 18, 2019 @09:47AM (#19420933)
Search “karmadecay” on google images. You’ll get zero results from karmadecay.com. Not on the first page, not on the 10-th page, it’s just not there.

Normally, the domain is very strong keyword. Search for “facebook” and the first image will be from facebook.com, search for “duckduckgo” and you’ll see a screenshot image hosted on duckduckgo.com on the 7-th place (not the first I expected but still high enough).

I’m not sure how your duplicate content remark explains this behavior. karmadecay has original logo image, why it’s not found?

Re:How to live without Google (2017) by SquareWheel on Monday March 18, 2019 @10:22AM (#19421221)
A search for "site:karmadecay.com" brings up some results. (warning: mostly nsfw)
Re:How to live without Google (2017) by Const-me on Monday March 18, 2019 @10:57AM (#19421561)
Right, I have wrote that in my first comment:

> Google will only show result from that domain if you limit search to that domain with “site:karmadecay.com”

The question is, why doesn’t normal image search show that site ever, despite tons of content?

I know technical reasons are still possible, but so is google breaking laws, they have quite a history of unlawful behavior and have paid billions in fines for that.

Re:How to live without Google (2017) by SquareWheel on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @02:42AM (#19428600)
>Right, I have wrote that in my first comment

My mistake.

>I know technical reasons are still possible...

It could be as simple as a penalty for breaking one of their webmaster guidelines.

Re:How to live without Google (2017) by Const-me on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @01:40PM (#19433284)
> could be as simple as a penalty for breaking one of their webmaster guidelines.

Agree. Could also be for not having a mobile-friendly version, or for not using AMP.

Still, even if google does nothing illegal here and acts in good faith, do you think it’s OK to de-prioritize relevant search results based on these technicalities?

As a consumer, when I search stuff in a desktop browser, I don’t give a damn about mobile versions nor webmaster guidelines. I want search results relevant to my search query. Arbitrary limitations imposed on web masters by search engine decrease quality of results.

Re:How to live without Google (2017) by SquareWheel on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:06AM (#19441228)
>Still, even if google does nothing illegal here and acts in good faith, do you think it’s OK to de-prioritize relevant search results based on these technicalities?

I do. That's actually the job of a search engine. If it wasn't choosing ranking factors, then it would just be a directory search.

Search engines are far more useful and relevant because they give more context to their results.

>when I search stuff in a desktop browser, I don’t give a damn about mobile versions

Desktop SERPs are actually different than mobile SERPs. They're crawled and indexed independently. A bad mobile site won't affect desktop results.

Re:How to live without Google (2017) by adgasf on Monday March 18, 2019 @06:42AM (#19420013)
Nice idea, I even tried it myself. What happens though is you start putting "!g" before every search, since DDG is unreliable and searching twice adds friction.
Re:How to live without Google (2017) by distant_hat on Monday March 18, 2019 @07:21AM (#19420175)
for me its about 30% of the searches, not every search. Its fine for very regular stuff, the kind where a Wikipedia page exists but not that great for deep searches.
Re:How to live without Google (2017) by adgasf on Monday March 18, 2019 @08:53AM (#19420620)
Before you search, you don't know if it will be in the 30% or the 70%. It is quicker to always add "!g" than it is to search twice 30% of the time.
Re:How to live without Google (2017) by rovr138 on Monday March 18, 2019 @08:01AM (#19420363)
I have seen the same in other queries too. I have started sending them some feedback. They have an option for results.

Haven’t yet noticed an improvement, but I haven’t been saving the queries I’ve sent to double check those.