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Re:Google’s Nest fiasco harms user trust and invades their p... by renholder on Saturday March 16, 2019 @10:48AM (#19408054)
>...how many people are there consciously not buying a smartphone in fear of it being used to spy on them...

I'd say that the number is relatively small to non-existent but that might have more to do with the fact that cell phones are more a requirement for day-to-day life than anything else.

For example, try to sign-up for paging services, as a means to replace your cellphone with a passive-only device, and see how far you can actually get with that idea.

Or try to buy a CRT-TV.[0]

At some point you have to concede that means to go against society's trends are no longer there, unless you make them yourself - and most people either don't have the resources nor the time or a combinations of either to do that.

[0] - https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=lp_560864_nr_p_n_feature_thre...

Re:Google’s Nest fiasco harms user trust and invades their p... by reaperducer on Saturday March 16, 2019 @10:54AM (#19408093)
try to sign-up for paging services, as a means to replace your cellphone with a passive-only device, and see how far you can actually get with that idea.

Pagers are still used in some industries, like healthcare, where people can die if a message doesn’t get through. Pagers are still more reliable than text messages and cell phones in many locations and especially inside large buildings like hospitals. Though the industry is switching.

Re:Google’s Nest fiasco harms user trust and invades their p... by renholder on Saturday March 16, 2019 @02:54PM (#19409474)
>Pagers are still used in some industries...

I never said that they weren't, yeah?

I suggested it being a difficult alternative because of the wide-spread use of cell phones. For example, in my country, the national paging system was taken down in August of 2011; so, there's no consumer paging services. B2B (which hospitals would be inclusive of) still exist, to be sure, but that means nothing in the overall scheme of a consumer trying to not buy a cell phone.

Re:Google’s Nest fiasco harms user trust and invades their p... by pdkl95 on Saturday March 16, 2019 @11:10AM (#19408193)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/08/11...

"Why one of cybersecurity’s thought leaders [Dan Geer] uses a pager instead of a smart phone"