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Re:School is all about signaling, not skill-building by Ken_Adler on Saturday March 16, 2019 @03:40AM (#19406815)
Crazy story: my son actually did what the author suggested, he talked his way into a free education at Princeton!!!

He audited all the classes he wanted to... no diploma, but what a great experience (and a great story....)

From the article:

Ponder this: If a student wants to study at Princeton, he doesn’t really need to apply or pay tuition. He can simply show up and start taking classes. As a professor, I assure you that we make near-zero effort to stop unofficial education; indeed, the rare, earnestly curious student touches our hearts. At the end of four years at Princeton, though, the guerrilla student would lack one precious thing: a diploma. The fact that almost no one tries this route — saving hundreds of thousands of dollars along the way — ....

Re:School is all about signaling, not skill-building by Zombiethrowaway on Saturday March 16, 2019 @04:30AM (#19406944)
...and? From a job market standpoint, does it help him? Does he "sell" it on his resume, in interviews? Is it valued? Did it help him competence/knowledge-wise?

From a personal standpoint, did it help/enrich him?

Re:School is all about signaling, not skill-building by identity-haver on Saturday March 16, 2019 @12:16PM (#19408531)
You definitely can't audit chemistry & engineering labs, architecture studio, geology field camp, etc. It seems that the more you can get the education by auditing, the more "signaling" the education is.
Re:School is all about signaling, not skill-building by avcdsuia on Saturday March 16, 2019 @04:33AM (#19406954)
Not a US citizen, but AFAIK, a course includes lectures, office hours, assignments etc. How did he manage to fully understand the materials without all the resources that are provided only for registered students?
Re:School is all about signaling, not skill-building by yorwba on Saturday March 16, 2019 @05:42AM (#19407077)
Also not a US citizen and I don't know how it works at Princeton, but in my experience, getting actionable feedback on assignments is rare. You may get told where your mistakes are, but not how you should have done it instead. Most of the value of assignments is in simply doing them; that forces you to review the necessary material.

As for office hours, I never went to any, but I assume that they're not going to check your student ID, just as they don't check before lectures.

Re:School is all about signaling, not skill-building by pbhjpbhj on Saturday March 16, 2019 @07:45AM (#19407335)
At my UK uni (some time back) we had tutorials and "office hours". Tutorials would recap lecture material and have question/answer sessions, and set "homework" questions; and be optional. Office hours would give chance to talk with the professor, you just queued outside, or signed up for a time slot.

Tutorials were run by TAs recruited from the body of PhD students and so could be of mixed quality (my metaphysics tutor was better than the lecturer), but would at least have value in repitition.

Libraries were vital to me. As at the time were computer facilities (MathCAD, Maple, Excel, Fortran, etc.). For some of my courses there were laboratories (material science), and for Art History there were trips and a special picture library.

You could sit in the back of lectures back then, but I think they check your ID nowadays.

Re:School is all about signaling, not skill-building by barry-cotter on Saturday March 16, 2019 @09:08AM (#19407625)
> Most of the value of assignments is in simply doing them; that forces you to review the necessary material.

Preach it. The same is true of past or specimen exam papers or textbook questions. Writing, like debating, exposes your own ignorance to you and allows you to remedy it.

Re:School is all about signaling, not skill-building by mattkrause on Saturday March 16, 2019 @08:39AM (#19407529)
As a student in the US, I got a ton of feedback on assignments.