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Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by driverdan on Friday March 15, 2019 @11:23AM (#19400506)
Is anyone else disappointed by what The Intercept turned into?

When it was formed I expected it to be an honest, unbiased journalistic effort that would expose people of different backgrounds to uncomfortable truths. Instead it turned into editorials and blogging, with most posts filled with strong, obvious bias that would never pass the editors at most mainstream publications. Their biases are so strong and clear I'm sure they scare away at least half of the political spectrum.

It's too bad because the topics and facts they report on are important and interesting. There's no need for such strong bias.

Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by petty_griper on Friday March 15, 2019 @02:25PM (#19402670)
It's clearly agenda-driven reporting, but it's that agenda is also very clearly rooted in the facts they report.

Ironically, I think you may dislike it because it's exposed you to an uncomfortable truth, which is that some political agendas are rooted in facts and others are not.

Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by driverdan on Friday March 15, 2019 @05:15PM (#19404361)
You're wrong, I agree with most of their opinions. I don't like the way they present them with appeal to emotion, speculation, and opinion woven into their reporting. It's unnecessary and a turnoff to those who don't share their opinions who might be otherwise swayed by the facts.
Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by hannob on Friday March 15, 2019 @12:42PM (#19401402)
You want unbiased journalism. I hate to tell you, but there is no such thing.
Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by MrZongle2 on Friday March 15, 2019 @12:54PM (#19401556)
You're right, but there's a difference between journalism that attempts to be objective and present all sides of a story.... and the tabloid-level partisan garbage that is presented by major media outlets today.

For a while, The Intercept looked like it was going to be a breath of fresh air.

Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by acct1771 on Friday March 15, 2019 @01:21PM (#19401908)
If you hide your bias, I can't judge it as easily.
Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by mr_spothawk on Friday March 15, 2019 @02:16PM (#19402555)
The podcast is a great source of interviews with thoughtful individuals with whom i don't always agree 100%.
Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by driverdan on Friday March 15, 2019 @05:19PM (#19404400)
I tried the podcast but it was worse than their publications. The episode I listened to started with a poorly done parody making fun of Trump. That's not journalism.
Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by jammygit on Friday March 15, 2019 @08:04PM (#19405468)
I think I listened to one where they made fun of the nsas internal philosophy newsletter in a way that... made a good argument, but that was in bad taste. I didn't finish the episode
Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by Bartweiss on Friday March 15, 2019 @03:13PM (#19403145)
I'm intensely disappointed with The Intercept, but that's a relatively small piece of why.

I certainly recognize what you mean, they could fulfill both their journalistic and political agendas with half the editorializing and bias. I honestly can't tell whether it's a conscious choice to draw readers with a non-traditional style or just a side-effect of operating outside the usual structures of journalism, but either way it does their writing no favors. Picking up staff like Sam Biddle suggests it's the latter, and these are simply people without much capacity to restrain themselves.

But what's even more damning to me is seeing The Intercept's record on due diligence and source protection. I was sympathetic on this for a long time, since critics like Lawfare were so quick to make speculative (and technologically ludicrous) accusations. But across Juan Thompson's stories, the Reality Winner debacle, and Kiriakou and Hickman's exposure, it's become increasingly hard to understand the The Intercept as a competent player in these leagues.

I'm glad it's out there, and it's still doing some good work on investigative stories like AT&T data tapping, but I can't shake the sense that operating genuinely outside the establishment tends to bring inescapable flaws along with the good stuff.

Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by beart on Friday March 15, 2019 @01:40PM (#19402127)
I agree with you 100% and I no longer am willing to read any Intercept articles at all.

For me, it isn't specifically that the articles are bias (they are). What really turns me off is that the writers can't seem to get the hell out of the way of the story. Every article is just steeped in the writer's personal opinions to the point where it feels more like ranting than news.

Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by blablabla123 on Friday March 15, 2019 @11:26AM (#19400534)
Yeah a lot of stuff there seems to be a bit extreme, despite some really well researched articles or even original investigations that you won't find elsewhere. Also it's not sympathetic at all that they exposed an interviewee of one piece.
Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by kaila on Friday March 15, 2019 @02:20PM (#19402616)
I was hoping I wasn't the only one.

There are occasionally good pieces on important topics, but I'm no longer willing to slog through the long line of headlines that repeat some variation of "[Politician] did [something you should hate him/her for]" in order to read them.

I'm with you on the bias. I want information, and I'll make my own decisions. However, maybe it is better when news outlets are overt with their biases. It's a little more disturbing to me to think of someone reading something they believe is unbiased when it's simply subtly biased.

Re:The Intercept Shuts Down Access to Snowden Trove by gcb0 on Friday March 15, 2019 @02:27PM (#19402691)
while they were doing exactly what you wanted then to do in the early days, did you supported them in any way?