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Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by zaidf on Friday March 15, 2019 @02:32AM (#19397085)
> Spotify wouldn’t be the business they are today without the App Store ecosystem,

Apple makes Microsoft look like an angel. Using this argument, Microsoft could claim they could have made hundreds of billions if they got a cut out of every Windows app sale. Oh, and that those companies wouldn't exist if it weren't for Windows.

Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by paavoova on Friday March 15, 2019 @03:10AM (#19397303)
Look at what Apple is doing to native integration [1]:

Because it uses these deep integration APIs, we're only allowed to distribute the application using the macOS App Store (whose rejections, appeals, and eventual acceptance made for quite the stressful saga over the last week and a half)

Imagine having to get certified by the Linux Foundation, under distribution clause, to access native Linux kernel APIs. But that's what the developer of Wiregaurd has to do to gain access to native macOS integration.

[1] https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2019-February/00...

Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by zx2c4 on Friday March 15, 2019 @04:50AM (#19397829)
In addition, Windows 10 requires that Microsoft approve and sign each kernel driver that's loaded, actually.

https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/windows-driver-docs/blob/HE...

Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by bad_user on Friday March 15, 2019 @02:58AM (#19397238)
Apple popularized trusted computing. And yes, it's as bad as we feared it would be back in the '90s.
Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by lotsofpulp on Friday March 15, 2019 @09:57AM (#19399713)
Apple popularized me not spending hours of time troubleshooting and restarting and letting me do what I want to do.
Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by jeremy7600 on Friday March 15, 2019 @10:57AM (#19400248)
Sad/angry/sick macs the world over would like a word with you.
Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by nolok on Friday March 15, 2019 @03:39AM (#19397460)
Ehhh I feel like Unix/Linux popularized trusted computing, Apple merely added a price tag on it. But I may be blinded by my techie point of view about "popularized".
Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by saagarjha on Friday March 15, 2019 @04:12AM (#19397647)
> I may be blinded by my techie point of view about "popularized"

Yeah, unfortunately it seems like we're still in the state where UNIX/Linux can't popularize anything, especially themselves, unless they're repackaged by someone else :(

Re:Addressing Spotify’s Claims by 013a on Friday March 15, 2019 @09:56AM (#19399706)
It doesn't seem like Apple said that Spotify wouldn't exist. Just that they wouldn't be the business they are today.

Which is absolutely true of Microsoft as well. The sheer productivity boon that Office has added to businesses around the world is unmatched by practically any other piece of software ever written. Most of the businesses would still exist, but they wouldn't be the same business. Excel, Powerpoint, and Word are ridiculously important software.