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Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by eeeeeeeeeeeee on Thursday March 14, 2019 @08:58PM (#19395474)
Perhaps, but that person is responding to another about the impact Facebook has on society, good or bad, and that person only highlights the good essentially. I do think it's important to remember that Facebook is really doing nothing technologically amazing to allow that communication -- voice or text -- across geographical borders.

The internet forms the basis of this core technology and Facebook simply made it easier to use.

It's not like if Facebook goes away we're going to go back to SMS and expensive international phone calls. This method of communication was going to happen regardless. And there are clearly alternatives that exist today with different funding models.

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by volundr- on Thursday March 14, 2019 @09:36PM (#19395687)
You say, "Facebook is really doing nothing technologically amazing to allow that communication," but you're kind of glossing over the immense complexity of building systems to support private and public communication (for free), and prevent an incredible variety and volume of abusive traffic.

Can you name a single alternative at their scale with a business plan that is viable long term and not state run or state supported?

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by dosbre on Thursday March 14, 2019 @10:49PM (#19396008)
I am using e-mail since about 2000's. Passing throught MSN video calls; early Google Talk; then came Skype; even Whatsapp; finaly but not last Hangout. All "for free" +plus no-ads.
Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by adventured on Friday March 15, 2019 @07:23AM (#19398614)
> e-mail since about 2000's

Provided by some company via a paid service or ads. Most commonly an ISP monopoly or oligopoly, or a large service monopoly, in nearly all nations. Even if you run your own email server, it's not free, you're paying for the network access to do it.

> MSN video calls

Subsidized by an operating system monopoly.

> Google Talk

Subsidized by a search monopoly.

> Skype

Which was never able stand on its own profitable two feet. It was subsidized first by investor money, then by an auction monopoly, then by an operating system monopoly.

> Whatsapp

Subsidized by a social monopoly.

> All "for free" +plus no-ads.

Nope. All paid for with monopolies and or ads.

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by joe_the_user on Thursday March 14, 2019 @10:03PM (#19395803)
"Perhaps, but that person is responding to another about the impact Facebook has on society, good or bad, and that person only highlights the good essentially."

But that's the structure of any logical argument. If someone says X is only A, I will describe how I see plenty of B in X, which by itself doesn't say there is not plenty of A in X too. IE, One person makes a generalization, another points to an exception or several exceptions.

I do think it's important to remember that Facebook is really doing nothing technologically amazing to allow that communication -- voice or text -- across geographical borders.

Indeed, Facebook pretty much only amalgamates blogs, chat, forums and such. But given it's only making technological steps of some small-to-medium degrees, if the love isn't justified, then neither should the hate be justified? Currently, Facebook gets both.

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by mirimir on Thursday March 14, 2019 @10:24PM (#19395894)
> ... then neither should the hate be justified?

The hate is because they collect so much data, and share and sell it so carelessly. Google collects at least as much data, for sure. But as far as I know, they just monetize it through their ad services, and don't actually provide it to others.

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by bryan_w on Friday March 15, 2019 @01:02AM (#19396724)
Facebook doesn't sell data either. They monetize it just the same as google
Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by fjbarrett on Saturday March 16, 2019 @10:02PM (#19411733)
Just 3 days ago, an investigation into Facebook data sales started. The NYTimes posted an article about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/technology/facebook-data-...

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by justtopost on Friday March 15, 2019 @11:53AM (#19400794)
That has been shown over a dozen times to be false.