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Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by ghaff on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:12PM (#19391251)
WRT Netflix, their stated strategy was that their access to data was going to allow them to create superior content as demonstrated (at least for a time) by House of Cards.But it became evident pretty quickly that 1.) The beast needs to be fed with quantity as well as quality (as you say) and 2.) Quality TV/film isn't just an algorithmic exercise.
Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by slg on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:44PM (#19391563)
>WRT Netflix, their stated strategy was that their access to data was going to allow them to create superior content

I would argue that Netflix has and does do this except for a different definition of superior. They aren't really trying to make a single show with broad market appeal. An algorithm isn't going to help with that anyway. What an algorithm can do is find niches to serve. Netflix has done a good job of creating these smaller shows that have an intense appeal to a small number of people. Gather enough of those shows together and eventually you have everyone covered. It is basically just targeted advertising except with TV shows.

HBO might have GOT that everyone watches, but Netflix has Black Mirror, BoJack Horseman, GLOW, You, The Crown, Russian Doll, Narcos, Maniac, Ozark, One Day At A Time, Big Mouth, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, and numerous other shows that have received critical acclaim and everyone probably watches at least one of those.

Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by ghaff on Thursday March 14, 2019 @02:17PM (#19391864)
There's truth to that. The dynamics are certainly different than simply counting the total number of eyeballs watching your programming. Everyone having one or two must sees on your [all you can eat subscription] network probably trumps 10 shows that people are "Meh, it's something to watch."
Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by sharkweek on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:17PM (#19391312)
Your last point is a strong one - Great TV seems RISKY before it finds success and it should be!

For example, Netflix show "Ozark" is pretty good! But I can pretty much guarantee it wouldn't have existed if AMC hadn't taken a gamble on "Breaking Bad" first.

Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by JustSomeNobody on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:41PM (#19391533)
You can have the best 3 shows on any platform, but if all you have is 3 shows, people won't sign up or stay. Netflix had to invest in quantity side by side with quality because the content providers started taking their ball and going home.
Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by pmart123 on Thursday March 14, 2019 @08:46PM (#19395409)
This is true if you want to be the biggest streaming service, but I don’t think it’s true for HBO.

One of the potential flaws in Netflix’s strategy is whether they will have to keep investing heavily in content in line with price increases.

The other, which I would not say is a flaw, but merely going to opposite direction by only producing a few, high quality shows is a differentiated offering from Netflix.

Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by ghaff on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:48PM (#19391606)
If you have economical access to a bunch of OK mainstream content, it's reasonable to put all your wood behind just a few arrows. You won't get a big hit every time but you can increase your odds by lining up the right people and opening a fat checkbook. And those few hits may be enough to get people to renew.

But if your licensed content is mostly drek, you have to create filler content yourself, even if it's mostly just OK.

Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by mikepurvis on Thursday March 14, 2019 @02:50PM (#19392243)
I don't disagree with this, but it's important to acknowledge that "drek" for you might be someone else's niche interest. Sure, some TV is just objectively bad (low production values, whatever), but easily-dismissed shows like Sugar Rush and movies like the Christmas Prince series have legitimate audiences who find them interesting and engaging.

One of the most significant and under-acknowledged strategic differences between Netflix and a traditional TV network is that they're not limited by a schedule— they don't need to pick just one show to put in that key Sunday night primetime slot, and they don't need to look at what they're "up against" in the same slot on the other networks. Their only practical limit is budget— ergo, a strategy of lots of niche, long-tail appeal type content makes a ton of sense.

Re:AT&T Is Dragging HBO's Streaming Strategy Out of the Dark... by ghaff on Thursday March 14, 2019 @03:04PM (#19392412)
All good points. There's a flip side to the schedule aspect too. Traditional broadcasters also need to fill up slots even if they know they don't have anything great to fill a hole. Which I expect was one of the drivers behind reality TV; you might as well fill the hole with something cheap if you don't expect a scripted show to be at least a reliable audience draw. (And I expect scripted shows are less predictable as well.)

(By "drek," I was mostly thinking of old second-tier and third-tier sitcoms and the like. I'm actually a bit surprised there isn't more of this sort of content; perhaps it's the tension between having lots of content and basically burying your tier-1 content with a bunch of mostly "crap.")