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Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by sixtram on Thursday March 14, 2019 @02:16AM (#19386873)
If it's for one user then it's a breach of contract, if you do that for 10 million, that's a deliberate act of breaching all contracts and that is usually criminal.

scale matters on these issues as well.

and if you are doing it as a big utility company (e.g. banks) then you are free to go :)

Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by cbluth on Thursday March 14, 2019 @02:53AM (#19387009)
I am still raging angry about Wells Fargo and Equifax.
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by JBReefer on Thursday March 14, 2019 @09:08AM (#19388844)
Wells should have been shut down, and I say that as a libertarian. They should have been shut down for this alone: https://consumerist.com/5283290/affidavits-on-how-wells-farg...
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by 8bitsrule on Thursday March 14, 2019 @02:49AM (#19386993)
The bank I've long used is constantly reminding me that it shares data with its 'affiliates'. So I give it very little data to share.
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by jwally on Thursday March 14, 2019 @08:57AM (#19388764)
So I work for a bank and constantly have to take compliance training...

One of the courses is over disclosure of information to third parties. This info isn’t part of my personal bau, so I might have it wrong, but:

There are two kinds of data sharing a bank does with affiliates, necessary for business (credit checks, appraisal companies, etc) that you cannot opt out of.

Then there’s everything else which you can.

It’s in legalese, but you can ask someone at your bank how to opt out of as much as possible.

It doesn’t help much, but it’s something I guess(?)

Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by thefucnjosh on Thursday March 14, 2019 @03:47AM (#19387230)
This sounds like an absurdity, hiding your information from your bank?
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by ptero on Thursday March 14, 2019 @08:48AM (#19388717)
Why not? That is, why does your bank need all that information about you? I give bank my money for safekeeping and the bank provides convenient access to it. Reliable access can be done with different methods using a different degree of anonymity.

At least in the US, banks requiring all sorts of information do it not even as their own business choice -- they do it because government regulators insist that this data is collected because security, because terrorism, because money laundering, etc.

Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by coding123 on Thursday March 14, 2019 @03:53AM (#19387254)
Fake address is a good start... Like a PO box you own. Banks are the worst offenders in sharing data with... Data brokers.
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by tbarbugli on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:47AM (#19387722)
Please refrain from suggesting idiotic and potentially illegal actions.
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by mcv on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:38AM (#19387675)
Get a better bank. And better banking regulation. I'm pretty sure Dutch (and probably European) banks aren't allowed to share their customers' data around like that, and I'm horrified that there are banks that do this.
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by Vinnl on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:26AM (#19388231)
Well, the largest Dutch payment provider did intend to sell payment data: https://nos.nl/artikel/510009-banken-verkopen-pingedrag-klan...

(They've since retracted that plan after the plan was met with widespread disapproval. I don't think they've tried again since.)

Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by chris_engel on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:33AM (#19387659)
Wait, isnt that illegal? Afaik you need to use correct information in a contract.
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by Spearchucker on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:17AM (#19387871)
If the mail reaches me then AFAIU it's legal. A contract does not stipulate that I must spend nights at the address I provide. How, for example, would you otherwise deal with having two residences?
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by tP5n on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:39AM (#19387995)
While you may have multiple residencies, legally you have one domicile. This is the location where you live and verification of you actually living there is required by most contracts and is enforceable in a court.
Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by pragone on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:56AM (#19388388)
Unless of course you don’t live anywhere because you move every 4 weeks.

Turns out our society is really not designed for someone without a physical residence. It’s made for a frustrating year for me.

Re:Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation by tbarbugli on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:45AM (#19387711)
I hope that this does not include providing incorrect information. That would be very dumb and an easy way to lose control of your own money or worse!