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Re:Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics by Sargos on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @03:38PM (#19382781)
Tarn isn't known for being a good developer. He's just very dedicated :)

In fact it's pretty well known that Dwarf Fortress has a horrible code base and it would be a huge project to bring it up to a good standard.

Re:Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics by ilaksh on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @06:36PM (#19384659)
Maybe he just said he wasn't the greatest developer and that the code wasn't well organized. That's called modesty and honesty.

In this era of self-promotion some people actually can't recognize those things.

But I think its very obvious that he is a good programmer. His work is literally legendary.

Re:Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics by SquareWheel on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @10:11PM (#19385964)
I feel the same way about Notch. He was being modest when being critical of his own code. Besides, Minecraft was little more than a weekend project when he started. The whole idea is to move fast when prototyping game ideas.

It's unfortunate that people latched on and the "Notch is a bad coder" meme took off. I imagine the same is true with Tarn.

Re:Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics by rizzin on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @10:11PM (#19385965)
>But I think its very obvious that he is a good programmer. His work is literally legendary.

"His work", as in, the game he made. Game development is a multi-faceted beast. It is quite possible that while game design is awesome, technical implementation is a mess even if it reaches the goals.

I have heard DF being praised for having so many things to do, for being able to create wild stories, etc, but never for technical excellence.

Re:Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @06:38PM (#19384683)
Good devs get shit done. Feel however you want about the cleanliness of your code vs that of others, but Tarn created something that will be recognized for its significance to gaming culture for the foreseeable future.
Re:Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics by umvi on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @03:43PM (#19382844)
Well they say hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard...

DF is definitely an admirable and awe-inspiring project, regardless of the beauty of its innards

Re:Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics by Mr_Shiba on Thursday March 14, 2019 @12:46AM (#19386593)
> Tarn isn't known for being a good developer. He's just very dedicated :)

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration - Thomas Edison.

Re:Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics by Smithalicious on Thursday March 14, 2019 @02:10AM (#19386859)
I feel like I see this quite often with large, single man projects, both inside and outside of IT (Henry Darger comes to mind). I feel like there might be some kind of bias at work here, but I do think it's interesting to see that traits like "being a good developer" don't seem to correlate very strongly with making large, successful personal projects.