US refuses to ground Boeing 737 Max

Re:US refuses to ground Boeing 737 Max by julianlam on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @10:29AM (#19378964)

Unless I am mistaken, the regular 737s do not have the MCAS installed,just the MAXs (https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/what-is-the-boeing...)

Additionally it has been suggested that documentation for this physical switch is not well laid out or presented in the manual because Boeing was confident that it would simply stay out of the pilot's way during flight.

Assuming pilot error would seem to be premature if these points are in fact true.

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Re:US refuses to ground Boeing 737 Max by mjburgess on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @10:36AM (#19379052)

Either way "pilot error" is defined with reference to some "reasonable level" of competence with the aircraft.

If multiple pilots are making the same error the issue is with the aircraft changes, not the "reasonable competence".

Ie., its redesign hasn't been thought through properly

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Re:US refuses to ground Boeing 737 Max by darkcha0s on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @10:50AM (#19379177)

As far as I'm aware, the previous versions gave an audible warning when the flight parameters were exceeding limits. The new system attempts to actively take control and sink the nose. If you know the system from previous aircraft, you'd expect the same behavior in the new one. I'm certain they mention this in training, but if English is not your first language, you'd have to pay particular attention to this part or you're screwed.

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Re:US refuses to ground Boeing 737 Max by rtkwe on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @10:53AM (#19379205)

There was no new training for this is what I've read. Boeing thought the new system was simple and similar enough that no retraining was required for the new model.

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