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Re:Researchers find trapdoor in SwissVote election system by jakeogh on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @02:35AM (#19376259)
Electronic voting is fundamentally incompatible elections. It's too easy to flip bits, and it always will be. "Hanging chads" etc are trivial issues (I would argue features) compared to the problems digital voting introduces.
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Re:Researchers find trapdoor in SwissVote election system by vlovich123 on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @03:38AM (#19376539)
But literally a paper trail is generated that can be used to audit any problems. How is that not better? Your "hanging chad" issue being a feature makes it sound like you're OK with disenfranchising people you look down upon.
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Re:Researchers find trapdoor in SwissVote election system by jakeogh on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @07:41PM (#19385127)
"feature makes it sound like you're OK with disenfranchising people"

...if you assume the least useful interpretation of the comment. Could having a real physical object to examine be useful?

The paper as a "backup" is worse than backwards, it's an excuse to implement electronic voting, and since there is "no evidence" of problems, why would you need to examine the paper anyway?

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Re:Researchers find trapdoor in SwissVote election system by vlovich123 on Thursday March 14, 2019 @03:29AM (#19387155)
You'd examine the paper to ensure integrity of the system. That's literally the point. Just like physical ballots are kept around.

Also, I think you're misunderstanding. The "no evidence" conclusion comes from auditing the paper ballot (as Schneier points out in that blog post above). You don't get to say "no evidence of problems" until the electronic & paper ballot agree. If there's disagreement you don't know which method is right & thus you have to hold a new election.

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Re:Researchers find trapdoor in SwissVote election system by jakeogh on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:06PM (#19394798)
"You'd examine the paper to ensure integrity of the system."

Then just use paper.

Recounts (which is what your suggestion will get called in practice) require legal maneuvers which are fought by the winning side. Adding a electronic component to voting will never lower it's complexity.

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