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Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by Tepix on Monday March 11, 2019 @09:48AM (#19358910)
German car manufacturers self-certify the CO2 exhausts.

TEPCO certifies their Japanese nuclear plants.

Works great, doesn't it?

Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by unethical_ban on Monday March 11, 2019 @10:26AM (#19359183)
It was NOx, and they didn't self certify, they cheated the tests.
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by Retric on Monday March 11, 2019 @11:09AM (#19359502)
Car companies operate their own testing units at their factories. I don’t see how this is different from self certification.

Ex: “Today in Tokyo, Nissan joined the increasing list of automakers who have admitted to falsifying emissions and/or fuel economy figures. The company said it had uncovered falsified data from car exhaust emissions tests at most of its plants based in Japan.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlyon/2018/07/09/nissan-adm...

Trust but verify is common worldwide for this stuff. Otherwise governments would need to install and operate a lot of equipment at every factory worldwide.

Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by mannykannot on Monday March 11, 2019 @11:46AM (#19359810)
True, but an entity that goes so far as to cheat on tests is hardly likely to honestly self-certify - it is further evidence that some non-trivial form of verification is necessary.

I am not, however, going to take any position on whether Boeing has done anything wrong until the accident analysis is complete.