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Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by chvid on Monday March 11, 2019 @03:57AM (#19357361)
I was checking out a thread about the subject on reddit aviation; half the people are saying this is a political move by China - the other half are checking their flights to make sure they are not flying a 737 MAX.

What happened to better safe than sorry? Obviously this type of plane needs to be grounded until issues are resolved or the two crashes can be definitely be dismissed as a freak coincedence.

Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by wp381640 on Monday March 11, 2019 @08:02AM (#19358262)
What you're somewhat observing is the split between Boeing and Airbus fans - if you only wade into airliner discussions periodically you might miss that there are two very entrenched and passionate groups of supporters who take the brand issue all too seriously
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by akg_67 on Monday March 11, 2019 @04:05AM (#19357389)
Will the reddit aviation answers be different if instead of China, it was Chinese (or another country’s) airlines were announcing one by one, they were grounding the planes?
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by alistairSH on Monday March 11, 2019 @08:12AM (#19358316)
Honest question... is there a difference between the Chinese government and the Chinese airlines? I know they're not literally led by the government, but I was under the impression the government still wielded disproportionate control over industry in Chine (relative to what we expect in the West).
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by pbhjpbhj on Monday March 11, 2019 @12:03PM (#19359964)
I'd have thought the UK government [and others in The West] had the ability to legally compel airlines not to fly particular models of aircraft?

If not, then the Chinese system would appear to be superior as safety can trump commercial considerations then.

Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by alistairSH on Monday March 11, 2019 @12:55PM (#19360519)
FAA certainly can do so. Either by decertifying a pane, or issuing various air worthiness directives or other instructions.
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by SZJX on Tuesday March 12, 2019 @03:20AM (#19366050)
Nah if you seriously think so you need to work a bit more on your mental models and probably try to get rid of the simplistic propaganda that you've read. All modern industries are subject to heavy regulations and in many cases the western regulatory system is still sounder than the Chinese one. China was more or less in a wild growth phase of capitalism in the last two decades. Now its regulators are catching up.
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by marcosdumay on Monday March 11, 2019 @08:20AM (#19358369)
It's unusual for airlines to announce that they are grounding planes, but countries do it once in a while.

It would be a very suspect thing.

Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by houseofzeus on Monday March 11, 2019 @10:40AM (#19359303)
I agree. Even if it turns out to be a different cause, who wants to be the airline that gives it the benefit of the doubt in the meantime? The optics at this point if it happens again while this one is still being investigated are awful. The Chinese decision here seems pretty rational.
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by JKCalhoun on Monday March 11, 2019 @12:02PM (#19359949)
I would go even further and suggest Boeing ought to ground them. If, as you mentioned, another accident were to happen, irrespective of the impact it would have on that airline, Boeing's reputation would be triply hammered.
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by houseofzeus on Tuesday March 12, 2019 @12:00PM (#19369502)
Yeah, they dropped the ball on this one. Now they have a growing number of countries grounding it themselves which to me seems like a significantly worse look than if Boeing had proactively done it themselves (also keeps it in the news cycle longer as each new country adds itself to the list).
Re:China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Ma... by SZJX on Tuesday March 12, 2019 @03:24AM (#19366066)
I don't even understand the "political influence" talk. Political influence so what, China's domestic planes get preferred? There are literally only two brands of commercial planes out there, Boeing and Airbus. People's bias, hysteria and excuse finding are simply amazing.