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Re:GitHub Nomic Game #3 by benj111 on Saturday March 09, 2019 @01:16PM (#19347534)
I admit I had never heard of the game before, I'm trying to reason about how the game would work in person beyond 'give me infinity points'. Has anyone got any links to actual playthroughs?
Re:GitHub Nomic Game #3 by chriswarbo on Saturday March 09, 2019 @05:30PM (#19348938)
The initial ruleset requires unanimous agreement for each rule change. This ensures that anyone who loses has, at some point, allowed it to happen (unlike, say, a majority vote, which could victimise a minority of players)

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic

"While the victory condition in Suber's initial ruleset is the accumulation of 100 points by the roll of dice, he once said that "this rule is deliberately boring so that players will quickly amend it to please themselves".[1] Players can change the rules to such a degree that points can become irrelevant in favor of a true currency, or make victory an unimportant concern. Any rule in the game, including the rules specifying the criteria for winning and even the rule that rules must be obeyed, can be changed. Any loophole in the ruleset, however, may allow the first player to discover it the chance to pull a "scam" and modify the rules to win the game. Complicating this process is the fact that Suber's initial ruleset allows for the appointment of judges to preside over issues of rule interpretation."

So not only would 'give me infinity points' presumably not win a unanimous vote; but the whole idea of "getting points" is designed to be gotten rid of in favour of something more interesting.

Re:GitHub Nomic Game #3 by rictic on Saturday March 09, 2019 @01:37PM (#19347672)
https://agoranomic.org is one of the biggest and longest lasting games of Nomic.

If you proposed a rule change that gave you infinite points, the other players would vote it down, because it's easy to see that that rule rewards you at their expense.

You can land self serving rules though, you've just got to be sneakier, and slip them in as loopholes or the like.

Re:GitHub Nomic Game #3 by pavel_lishin on Saturday March 09, 2019 @07:29PM (#19349460)
My god, this all seems so complicated.

https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/m...

Re:GitHub Nomic Game #3 by Gaelan on Saturday March 09, 2019 @11:03PM (#19350130)
To be fair, we're in the middle of a big mess right now (we discovered a bug in a definition used by many rules, which means that many things don't work; we're working on a retroactive fix). That sort of mess happens every year or so.

(But then, Agora still is really complicated.)

Re:GitHub Nomic Game #3 by cbsks on Saturday March 09, 2019 @10:37PM (#19350022)
The list of current rules is both impressive, and very intimidating https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/flr.txt
Re:GitHub Nomic Game #3 by Jd on Saturday March 09, 2019 @05:22PM (#19348888)
There are many nomic games which involve a starting rule set and a subset of the rules that are mutable. Those are the most playable ones in my estimation.