> On the other hand, once you are hired, being fired is pretty hard. So you don't have to worry about your boss being as abusive as you can find in the US because you can talk back.
If your boss is abusive then the solution is not to talk back but to pack your stuff and move to a better job, and leave your boss with the problem of replacing you.
In France you're also obligated to give your employer 1-3 months notice before leaving by law.
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That's a really dishonest interpretation.
Re:I Win My European Unemployment Bet
by subjectHarold on Friday March 08, 2019 @01:49PM
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What part is inaccurate?
The "your main concern" part, just to start.
Re:I Win My European Unemployment Bet
by subjectHarold on Friday March 08, 2019 @02:02PM
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Okay, what other concerns does he mention? All he says is that being fired is difficult...which he then suggests is important because you can then be rude to your boss. No other reasons are used to support this idea.
You're attaching a very unreasonable interpretation to the term "talk back". It's not a pure desire to be rude to people; it's about being able to voice contrary opinions, without fear of unfair retribution and if necessary, without being constrained by political correctness or a corporate culture that demands obeisance. No employee should ever have to fear getting fired for speaking up about something that seems illegal, dangerous, or just plain stupid.
Re:I Win My European Unemployment Bet
by subjectHarold on Saturday March 09, 2019 @04:43PM
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French here. I think he is stating the obvious, nobody is denying that. It's also the same reason it's hard to find a house in France: protective laws make both tenants and employers worried, and they filter quite hard the hiring/renting prospects.
On the other hand, once you are hired, being fired is pretty hard. So you don't have to worry about your boss being as abusive as you can find in the US because you can talk back.
Well, that's the theory. In practice I've rarely been talked badly by most people, the one time somebody was abusive, I told them to piss off, and they fired me. And I've never had any trouble finding a gig in my life ever since.
So your milage may vary as usual, but most people around me do report having a hard time with hiring/renting because of high steaks for both parties.