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Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by ido on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:49AM (#19337056)
I would be interested to know what these friends do.

From my personal experience in game-dev in Berlin, the highest earning coding individual-contributor (so not a manager) salary I ever saw was 70-something €k per year (and it is quite rare to go above €65k even as a very senior programmer).

You will literally have to be C-level at a large and succesful company to earn €120k+ as far as I can tell (in this sector).

Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by CalRobert on Friday March 08, 2019 @10:05AM (#19338072)
Game development is famously underpaid. After all, you're competing with wide-eyed 23 year olds with no bills or family who have dreamed of making games their whole life.

I was apparently pretty well paid at my last job (Game Dev) at 68k EUR a year.

Also, note that a lot of Europeans quote salary after tax, which can make a big difference.

Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by ido on Friday March 08, 2019 @10:57AM (#19338657)

    you're competing with wide-eyed 23 year olds
Not for senior/lead roles (I've done hiring in several companies). There are lots of people competing for junior roles but its still not that easy to recruit true seniors (10+ years work experience).
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by expertentipp on Friday March 08, 2019 @08:20AM (#19337227)
> salary I ever saw was 70-something €k per year (and it is quite rare to go above €65k even as a very senior programmer).

That's my impression as well, of the job market in Berlin as dev contributor in many industries. There exists just rock solid ceiling at 70k EUR and that's it. No idea about stricte managerial roles but these are oftentimes reserved to native Germans and the competition is beyond fierce so forget about it (unless you are Abmahnung, Betriebsrat, and Arbeitsrecht virtuoso).

Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by ido on Friday March 08, 2019 @09:16AM (#19337613)
I’ve not experienced managerial roles being reserved for native Germans in the Berlin tech industry at least - had plenty of non-German managers.
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by dietr1ch on Friday March 08, 2019 @08:13AM (#19337189)
Haven't the game industry always relied on offering a "dream job" to underpay?
Re:List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits by ido on Friday March 08, 2019 @08:16AM (#19337207)
Sure, I expected web devs to earn maybe €80-90k but not €120k+