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Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by skizm on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:36PM (#19333296)
This doesn't sit right with me. If someone comes in with thousands of pennies am I allowed to refuse that type of payment? As a business, if I don't want to deal with the overhead of handling cash, I shouldn't have to. It feels like a law where websites are required to render correctly on all browsers or something. The right to refuse service to people should also extend to the right to refuse types of payment.
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by noir_lord on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:39PM (#19333327)
> This doesn't sit right with me. If someone comes in with thousands of pennies am I allowed to refuse that type of payment?

In the UK yes.

There are rules about the maximum you can pay in different denominations.

    1p – for any amount up to 20p
    2p – for any amount up to 20p
    5p – for any amount up to £5
    10p – for any amount up to £5
    20p – for any amount up to £10
    25p (Crown) – for any amount up to £10
    50p – for any amount up to £10
People where paying their council tax (think of them as state taxes) in 1's and 2's.

If you wonder what 25p (Crown) is, the law dates from the early 70's which was the era we went over to decimal coinage.

Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by djsumdog on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:41PM (#19333343)
"This note is legal tender for ALL debts, public and private."

A state must have a monopoly on its money. We don't let people print money and cards are an indirection, but they must still deal in US currency. The note is the most basic form of that currency.

So yes, you should need to count 1,000 pennies. You might not like it .. it may be abused, but those are the rules of the system we currently have.

Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by yellow_postit on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:56PM (#19333471)
A more common case than the 1k pennies I see is small item shops like convenience stores having a posted note for refusing to accept $50 and $100 bills. This seems totally fine per: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages...

There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy.

Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by jochakovsky on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:54PM (#19333459)
That's actually not what legal tender means: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages...
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by AuthorizedCust on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:55PM (#19333465)
Incorrect. You are not required to accept all and any form of legal tender. You do not have to count those pennies. You can refuse to accept that form of payment.
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by luhn on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:56PM (#19333469)
A sale is not a debt, so by the rules of the current system a shop can refuse to count those pennies.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm

Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by skizm on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:47PM (#19333391)
True, but that's why I'm saying it doesn't sit right with me. I'm not debating what the law is. I'm saying, in my opinion, businesses should be allowed to refuse types of payments.
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by bootlooped on Thursday March 07, 2019 @06:26PM (#19333698)
You can probably refuse any type of payment you want... except cash.
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by travisjungroth on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:53PM (#19333442)
I believe in Canada they can and the limits are expressly stated.
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by dredmorbius on Thursday March 07, 2019 @06:14PM (#19333620)
You can refuse payment. But in doing so, you dissolve the debt.
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by laminar_flow on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:50PM (#19333429)
That sounds like a highly uncommon scenario. I cashiered full time for nearly 3 years during college at a busy convenience store and encountered people paying with large sums of change < 5 times. Doesn't seem like a good reason to ban an entire payment method.
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by jzwinck on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:55PM (#19333466)
Of course you should be able to refuse 1000 pennies. Singapore has a very simple law that solves this cleanly with no fuss at all: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/what-you-should-know-...
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by Simulacra on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:38PM (#19333317)
As a business, you can refuse service any time. Trying to pay with pennies is not a protected class. Any complaint or outrage would likely be met with public scorn. Pennies are legal tender, but you do not have a right to pay exclusively in pennies.
Re:Philadelphia Is First U.S. City to Ban Cashless Stores by fucking_tragedy on Thursday March 07, 2019 @05:54PM (#19333455)
> If someone comes in with thousands of pennies am I allowed to refuse that type of payment?

Yes, this has always been the case.