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Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by makerofspoons on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @02:18PM (#19321728)
Micro-houses are the future of housing for everyone.

The massive living spaces we have now are not sustainable. By 2050 if we are to avoid 2 degrees of warming we need to be emitting 2 tons of carbon per year per person: http://insight.gbig.org/targeting-2-tons-closer-than-we-thin.... The average American today emits 11 tons, whereas 2 tons per person is closer to that of someone living in Brazil or Egypt.

In climates where you need to heat and cool a home, carbon taxes will make heating and cooling the living spaces we have now financially impossible. People will drive demand for these smaller living options out of necessity. Additionally, as we make consumption less and less economically attractive people will have fewer things to want to store anyway, and personal vehicles will likely no longer be something the average person will be able to afford or want so there will be less need for parking and garages.

Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by refurb on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @03:47PM (#19322597)
Your 11 tons is total US emissions (including industrial), spread out across the entire population. Of course the US emits 5x that of Brazil or Egypt, the US produces 5x the output.

Moving into micro houses isn’t going to cut it, you’d need to slash US economic activity to reduce those numbers (an entire new technology).

Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by makerofspoons on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @04:53PM (#19323254)
Microhousing would be just one development carbon taxing would bring about- if we began to price our food appropriately for example animal agriculture would largely come to an end except for luxuries, and that would do a great deal to cut emissions. Personal vehicles and flying would also become cost prohibitive. These are only a few of the ways taxing carbon could make our lifestyles more sustainable and shrink highly polluting sectors of our economy such that we reach a more sustainable amount of emissions per capita.
Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by ryanwaggoner on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @03:57PM (#19322702)
Which is why we won't ever have those carbon taxes. As soon as politicians implement (or probably even seriously suggest) carbon taxes with enough pain to legitimately incentivize people to give up their homes (and all their stuff) to live in "microhousing", some other politician will come along and tell your constituents that you're crazy and they have a better way. And poof, just like that you're out of a job.

We're not going to solve climate change by democracies adopting high carbon taxes.

Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by makerofspoons on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @04:49PM (#19323208)
I worry that without the voting public waking up to the reality of how deep in the hole we already are we won't solve climate change at all. No near-future technology has the ability to reduce emissions by the amount we need to, besides widespread deployment of nuclear power which is also not politically viable. At some point people will, either willingly or by force (such as widespread natural disaster and famine), realize that things have to change.
Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by magduf on Thursday March 07, 2019 @12:09PM (#19329779)
I think the problem here is that you still have some hope that climate change can be reversed or at least mitigated. It can't.

There is simply no way developed nations are going to curb their emissions enough in time, and that developing nations will refrain from increasing their emissions, for us to avoid this disaster.

We might as well get used to the idea that our civilization is going to collapse before too long, and there's really nothing we can do about it. Other civilizations in the past collapsed and disappeared because of environmental change, and ours will be no different.

Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by JoeAltmaier on Thursday March 07, 2019 @12:21PM (#19329907)
Well, a little different. We have globe-spanning transportation and communications. Actual technology to bring to bear. The best chance of mitigating the disaster that has ever existed in history.
Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by magduf on Thursday March 07, 2019 @12:58PM (#19330325)
Yes, but before that actual technology, there wasn't a problem because we weren't pumping so much carbon into the atmosphere. And even with technology, there's too many political problems to actually use that technology to solve the problem before it's too late, which climate scientists are telling us it already is.

Our globe-spanning communications seems like it should help us solve these problems together, but instead look what it's brought us: anti-vaxers convincing a lot of people not to vaccinate, which has now brought back diseases we thought were almost extinct. Instead of using these communications to convince people about real problems and solve them, these communications have instead enabled the stupidest people to have a much larger voice and influence, which has led us to disaster politically in the US for one (just look at who we elected in 2016).

Sorry, but I don't see how there's any way out of this mess. We can't just figure things out in 50 years and then start fixing the problem; by then it'll be far too late.

Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by ryanwaggoner on Thursday March 07, 2019 @09:50AM (#19328427)
That's exactly what's going to happen. Humanity will not solve climate change until we're already suffering badly from its effects.
Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by hndamien on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @08:01PM (#19324687)
Which is a shame since it is the only realistic option.
Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by ryanwaggoner on Thursday March 07, 2019 @09:50AM (#19328433)
That's the whole point: it's not a realistic option because it ignores political reality.
Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by hndamien on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:18PM (#19394419)
Political realities are the easiest to change in this case. See segregation.
Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by flerchin on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @03:44PM (#19322563)
Can't I just keep my moderately sized home and add solar panels? I would definitely rather do that and bike to the train station.
Re:Some young people are buying houses with friends by makerofspoons on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @04:50PM (#19323217)
If we implemented a carbon pricing scheme and these panels allowed you to heat and cool your home with no or minimal draw off the grid, this would be an affordable option.