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Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by cm2012 on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @01:19PM (#19321176)
Okay. So what's the evil end game of FB privacy?

The government doesn't need Facebook to get your data (they go straight to the ISPs, anyway). There's 10,000 companies that buy and sell your personal data already (and has been for 30 years - you can buy lists for direct mail of people's name, full addresses, numbers, marriage status, estimated income, etc.)

Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by reaperducer on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @02:17PM (#19321718)
The government doesn't need Facebook to get your data

You're only thinking of the federal level. There are many levels of government, and local governments from states and counties all the way down to companies contracted by the local dog catcher buy the data mined by advertising companies.

and has been for 30 years - you can buy lists for direct mail of people's name, full addresses, numbers, marriage status, estimated income, etc

But for 30 years you haven't been able to track someone's location on a minute-by-minute basis. Or in real-time in the case of buying data from a cell phone carrier. Plus a lot of other invasive information that hasn't been available until FB, G, and others weaponized the avertising industry.

We're not talking about public data. We're talking about companies selling private data.

Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by cm2012 on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @02:49PM (#19322087)
You can't "buy" data from FB (unless you're referring to a local state PD getting a warrant). FB sells access to ad units, not the data itself.
Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by reaperducer on Thursday March 07, 2019 @11:24AM (#19329313)
I guess you've forgotten about the thousands of Facebook "partners" who paid money for access to people's private information.
Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by cm2012 on Thursday March 07, 2019 @01:19PM (#19330553)
They didn't. FB used have a more open API (Which HN and other developer communities clamored for), that meant if you you had an app you could see your users contact lists through FB. They shut this off in 2008.
Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by flukus on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @10:46PM (#19325377)
> Okay. So what's the evil end game of FB privacy?

Apart from the evil of "making people buy shit they wouldn't have otherwise" that applies to all advertising the end game is to do price discrimination based on profiles of the individual. If they know you're friends are raving about a holiday somewhere then you'll see a higher price than a casual browser. This way you can extract the maximum amount possible from your customers.

Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by cm2012 on Thursday March 07, 2019 @09:59AM (#19328506)
Companies are free to do that now by using direct mail. EstI'll mated income info can be bought on most people in America.
Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by enraged_camel on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @02:20PM (#19321749)
>>Okay. So what's the evil end game of FB privacy?

You are looking at it the wrong way. It's not about Facebook's evil end game today. It's about what their current collection of data enables a future Facebook (or a company that may buy Facebook one day) to do. It's also about what malicious actors, government or otherwise, may do with the data if they get their hands on it, as they have, multiple times, in the recent past.

Today the data is used to show you ads. There is no guarantee that it will be used for just that purpose in the future.

Re:Facebook Still Tracks People on Yelp, Duolingo, Indeed by cm2012 on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @02:49PM (#19322094)
What is the future scenario where this FB data is used wrong, that can't/isn't already being done by collecting ISP data?